Lynch Modded Plexi

[NewReligion]

I have been messing with mods for the last 2-3 years. As George Lynch is one of my favorite slingers I have been working towards copping his saturated Plexi tones.

At the end of the day it is my opinion that a OD pedal is "key" in achieving the compression and saturation of such guitarist as Lynch, Vai and Wylde etc...

EVH I believe reamped after starving the primaries and fed out to external power amps. Unstable but sounds great, not for me at this time.

Anyway the filtering, cathodes, drop resistors, NFB etc... all can take you from the dark smooth to the too much treble brittle fizz tones. I should also add that Marshall proprietary V30's make everything more robust.

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, that is to say that I do not play well when on pain med medication.

Once I settle on the basic ciruit I will make a proper recording of the amp and make the values available to whomever would like to know.

David ♫
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwOLrKdvpts]Lynch Modded Plexi - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Stringjunkie]

Sounds pretty good but the hippie look is not for you. Jk

 

[NewReligion]

Sounds pretty good but the hippie look is not for you. Jk

LMAO, I'm going for the Senior Discount.

David ♫

 

[Steve Naples]

David, a friend of mine once asked Lynch what he used back in the early days. He had a jumpered Plexi, dimed with a Boss OD-1 in the front, that was it he told him.

I know how it is trying to get that sound myself. I have an original circuit OD-1 into the front of my 4212, and it comes very close when the master is turned up to 9 or so, and I have my volume on the guitar up all the way.

 

[NewReligion]

David, a friend of mine once asked Lynch what he used back in the early days. He had a jumpered Plexi, dimed with a Boss OD-1 in the front, that was it he told him.

I know how it is trying to get that sound myself. I have an original circuit OD-1 into the front of my 4212, and it comes very close when the master is turned up to 9 or so, and I have my volume on the guitar up all the way.

I'm certain George was speaking the truth. The thing is you just don't know what value components Marshall put in their amps between 1967-1969 as the NFB varried from 27k-56k-100k and often set to different taps on the ohm selector not to mention cathode, bypass caps, fizz cap, PI coupling caps, other coupling caps, tone stack etc... It made many heads sound different from each other. Add that to the Cabs/Speakers/Pedals/Voltages guitars/Pickups. So many great players with unique tones, similar but unique.

Another guy is Zakk. I have heard some close copies but no one has nailed it IMO either.

David ♫

 

[Steve Naples]

That is true, you see so many different values on the NFB and the caps. You never know what you get from the same year even.
Yeah, Zakk, has his sound too, and no I haven't heard anyone nail it either. You can get close. Also, everybody has a different sound just from their fingers. So I guess all we can really do is get as close as we can. It is a fun challenge though.

 

[NewReligion]

That is true, you see so many different values on the NFB and the caps. You never know what you get from the same year even.
Yeah, Zakk, has his sound too, and no I haven't heard anyone nail it either. You can get close. Also, everybody has a different sound just from their fingers. So I guess all we can really do is get as close as we can. It is a fun challenge though.

It can be obsessive lmao. Fun indeed. In fact I am so tarded that I use a Multimeter and variac to ensure that each head gets the voltage that sounds best with it. Now that is extreme OCD tone chasing. But I hate the over fed voltage that makes amps brittle and buzzy = modern.

David ♫

 

[Steve Naples]

Yes, it can be. I love it. None of my amps have the chassis actually secured, so that I can take it out. My 4212 is sitting on top of the cab with the pcb exposed right now.

Ok, now that is really getting a bit OCD...

 

[Alabama Thunderpussy]

That thing sounds mean as Owen's mama!

 

[NewReligion]

That thing sounds mean as Owen's mama!

Thanks Alabama. You are one of a few gentlemen that helped me learn my way around a bit.

I messed with the EVH Primary mod last week. Too unstable IMO. And I get where I want to go with the push of the SD-1 but it takes all of the tweaks to get there, the SD-1 is just the icing on the cake.

I ordered a quickmod classic from John Kasha today. Will see where this goes. I hope it is not just a tricked out tube driven OD pedal. Take a look sometime if you have not already. Kasha Amplifiers, Store

Sorry for the fragmented grammar and subject matter, pain meds for the half century old back.

Thanks again for the kind words and outstanding lessons and support. I try to pass the wealth.

David ♫

 

[mkspriggs]

not bad he used a dimed od on top of that to get them fuller sound, and i would ditch the Ibanez, def not a gonna nail his tone with that lol. good luck

 

[rmroza]

"At the end of the day it is my opinion that a OD pedal is "key" in achieving the compression and saturation of such guitarist as Lynch, Vai and Wylde etc.."

ABSOLUTELY! Look at Mark Day playing some Lynch-stuff on a Friedman BE-100 and even thou it gets many sounds including a hot-rodded Marshall...., he uses a Suhr Koko Boost on the front end to slam it and get the Lynch tone!

Likewise, you're right about the Marshall amps and various NFB resistors and taps. Depending on the resistor used, lower went to higher (16 ohm tap), higher value to lower value (4 ohm), etc.

 

[NewReligion]

not bad he used a dimed od on top of that to get them fuller sound, and i would ditch the Ibanez, def not a gonna nail his tone with that lol. good luck

Thanks for the input. Without Scary's fingers I am not gonna get there anyway but I love the RG's as much as the ESP's, Hotrod Strat's etc... In fact that was a stock 1989 RG550 very weak pickups but so is the Seymour Duncan Screamin Demon SH12. I have a custom shop RG2570 that beats up the Les Pauls in the house. All passive pickups.

Good to hear from you, thanks again.

David ♫

 

[NewReligion]

"At the end of the day it is my opinion that a OD pedal is "key" in achieving the compression and saturation of such guitarist as Lynch, Vai and Wylde etc.."

ABSOLUTELY! Look at Mark Day playing some Lynch-stuff on a Friedman BE-100 and even thou it gets many sounds including a hot-rodded Marshall...., he uses a Suhr Koko Boost on the front end to slam it and get the Lynch tone!

Likewise, you're right about the Marshall amps and various NFB resistors and taps. Depending on the resistor used, lower went to higher (16 ohm tap), higher value to lower value (4 ohm), etc.

Right on. Changing out the 47pf fizz cap between the PI plate resistors for a 100pf helps a lot too when using 100k NFB IMO.

David ♫

 

[John 14:6]

Very cool David!!! I also consider the Dokken era Lynch tones to be the bench mark for the ultimate hard rock/metal tones. Whenever I am dialing in a hard rock/metal tone I am playing some Dokken riffs and turning knobs until it sounds right.

 

[Ghostman]

Wow!

 

[NewReligion]

Very cool David!!! I also consider the Dokken era Lynch tones to be the bench mark for the ultimate hard rock/metal tones. Whenever I am dialing in a hard rock/metal tone I am playing some Dokken riffs and turning knobs until it sounds right.

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oem_IkGnj8E]Dokken - Til The Livin' End (with lyrics) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[keennay]

Sounds tasty!

I know the guy I should talk to whenever I purchase a 1959 kit to tweak.

 

[NewReligion]

"At the end of the day it is my opinion that a OD pedal is "key" in achieving the compression and saturation of such guitarist as Lynch, Vai and Wylde etc.."

ABSOLUTELY! Look at Mark Day playing some Lynch-stuff on a Friedman BE-100 and even thou it gets many sounds including a hot-rodded Marshall...., he uses a Suhr Koko Boost on the front end to slam it and get the Lynch tone!

Likewise, you're right about the Marshall amps and various NFB resistors and taps. Depending on the resistor used, lower went to higher (16 ohm tap), higher value to lower value (4 ohm), etc.

I listened to Mark on the BE, that was freaking sick lol....wow. Sooooo saturated yet still tracking each note at breakneck speeds.

David ♫

 

[R.Kandy]

"At the end of the day it is my opinion that a OD pedal is "key" in achieving the compression and saturation of such guitarist as Lynch, Vai and Wylde etc..."

There ya go (I swear I always say this), IMO, try thr Fulltone OCD, that awlays works for me. Playing was good David, just needed a shave...LOL J.K!!

Wouls love to see your settings.