JCM 900 with Bugera PS1 Attenuator Smoked!

[Scozz]

I suspect it could be a similar thing with the Bugera. The OP said it smoked, but he didn't say if it stopped working, did he?

Right. He stopped using it cause he panicked. I can understand that, you see and smell smoke, anyone might panic.

I’m wondering if the manual of these attenuators mentions this stuff?

 

[anitoli]

*** cue Toby Keith "boot in yer ass" music.

Spare me the flag waving/stock car racing/M'erica BS.

This isn't comedy.................

 

[charveldan]

Another successful Boogera thread up in flames.

 

[tmingle]

Right. He stopped using it cause he panicked. I can understand that, you see and smell smoke, anyone might panic.

I’m wondering if the manual of these attenuators mentions this stuff?

Why in the world don't the manufacturers do the burn off before shipping these things? It would probably save a lot of money for them in the long run. IIRC, my Weber Mass had a hotish smell for a few minutes when it was new.

 

[JacksonCharvelAddict]

No electrical device in proper working order should never smoke, burn, spit fire or smell like its burning.
Those are indications that something is clearly not right.
If you doubt me call your local Fire Marshall & run that by him, see what he sez.

I have to agree. I could understand a slight odor sue to new paint or metal finish heating up. But if it is enough to cause visible smoke I cannot imagine that being ok.

 

[Scozz]

I was just researching the Weber miniMass attenuator on their website, and I came across this in the Attenuator Faq section.

The exact same wording @Ryan Kirk posted in his 2nd post on page one. So Ted Weber also talks about smoke coming from HIS attenuators when new. It’s a normal occurrence.

So it’s not just a burning Bugera thing like some uniformed members stated!!

 

[ampmadscientist]

These PS1s are selling like crazy. Just a couple of months ago everyone was out of them and had backorders on waiting lists. There are also a slew of videos singing the praises of the value of this attenuator. This is the very first problem I've heard about them.

Also the ubiquitous quality problems of Behringer/Bugera products is long in the past. Currently they have one of the lowest warranty repair return rates in the industry, well below the industry average. At least that's what I read when I purchased my Bugera G5 Infinum.

Now everybody knows that they don't use the best components in their products, how could they for the prices they charge. And everyone knows they ripoff designs of many other companies. But they provide a decent value for your dollar to consider.

I would never (in a million years) purchase a Bugera product.
Especially when it involves heat.
Pretty much all the failures of Bugera that I have seen, involve poor thermal management and thermally related failures....

 

[ampmadscientist]

Sounds like an endorsement to me.
If you're not against it you must be for it.

If the "ubiquitous quality problems of Behringer/Bugera products is long in the past" then why are we here yet again in this thread talking about it ?

"...ubiquitous quality problems of Behringer/Bugera products is long in the past..."

How many times have we heard that before?

 

[Scozz]

"...ubiquitous quality problems of Behringer/Bugera products is long in the past..."

How many times have we heard that before?

You’re free to purchase or not purchase any product you wish. But those ubiquitous quality problems that Bugera had were quite a numbers of years ago. While they most certainly do not use the best component in their amps they provide a value for a certain segment of guitarists.

 

[charveldan]

I was just researching the Weber miniMass attenuator on their website, and I came across this in the Attenuator Faq section.

The exact same wording @Ryan Kirk posted in his 2nd post on page one. So Ted Weber also talks about smoke coming from HIS attenuators when new. It’s a normal occurrence.

So it’s not just a burning Bugera thing like some uniformed members stated!!

Boogera is NOT a weber just like a Ford Pinto isn't a Ferrari.
If your Boogera is smoking, unplug it, throw it in a bucket of water, then throw it in the trash because thats what it is, Trash.
Ive had a Hot Plate for a year, use it alot & it doesn't even get the slightest bit warm.

Love the comments that claim smoking electrical devices are normal.
Yaw'll never went to Fire Fighter School did you ?

 

[Scozz]

Boogera is NOT a weber just like a Ford Pinto isn't a Ferrari.
If your Boogera is smoking, unplug it, throw it in a bucket of water, then throw it in the trash because thats what it is, Trash.
Ive had a Hot Plate for a year, use it alot & it doesn't even get the slightest bit warm.

Love the comments that claim smoking electrical devices are normal.
Yaw'll never went to Fire Fighter School did you ?

Do you even read posts before you respond to them?? Or maybe you have difficulty comprehending cogent sentences!

What I posted is from Ted Weber’s website,..... referring to his Weber miniMass attenuator. He’s explaining that his product will get hot, emit a slight smell and even a little smoke.

 

[Lance Chambers]

I have a plethora of Bugera/Behringer gear, including a PS-1. I haven't smoked anything yet.

 

[bad565ss]

Oh why bother. Like every other gear thread this one is full of the opinions of guys who have never laid their hands on one. Your mileage may vary.

 

[ampmadscientist]

Right. He stopped using it cause he panicked. I can understand that, you see and smell smoke, anyone might panic.

I’m wondering if the manual of these attenuators mentions this stuff?

Smoking is "definitely"
an indication to discontinue (and question) use of the product ! Who wouldn't be concerned about "smoke?"

If 3 hours "burn in" is normal producing smoke, then the manufacturer should "burn in" the product before selling to the customer.

 

[ampmadscientist]

Aren't 4x12 Marshall cabs 16 ohms? Maybe you had a mis match going on???

"Maybe you had a mis match going on???"

Yes exactly. A mismatch could cause mega heat...

 

[charveldan]

Do you even read posts before you respond to them?? Or maybe you have difficulty comprehending cogent sentences!

What I posted is from Ted Weber’s website,..... referring to his Weber miniMass attenuator. He’s explaining that his product will get hot, emit a slight smell and even a little smoke.

Mmmm yeah.
This thread is 2 weeks old.

And your point is what other than endorsing the cost benefits of Boogera crap-o-la ?

Come on man you got to admit that shit is bottom of the barrel [none cheaper] stuff.
Like whats cheaper than Behringer stuff ... ? Nothing.

Cheaper as in : build quality, price, reliability ect.

I have a feeling another company worse than Boogera is coming & make them look like MESA/Boogie.

 

[Gene Ballzz]

I'm totally amazed that this thread has remained open for so long, given the nature of some of the posts!

On a different note, it is not unusual for anything that will be subjected to intense heat (during normal use) to give off smells and or bits of smoke, upon initial use! While not electronic, a new exhaust system on a car will give off nasty smells and smoke for at least the first few minutes of heating up. A smart auto-mechanic will let the vehicle sit outside, running, until smoke/smell is gone, to avoid issues with their customers. Bugera, as well as other manufacturers should utilize a similar procedure? Many electronic components, solder flux, wire, etc. can react similarly! Of course, none of that should be considered as a positive endorsement for anything produced/sold by the ruthlessly horrific business model that "IS" Behringer/Bugera! Uli should rightly be investigated, prosecuted and sentenced for his crimes of international corporate espionage, intellectual theft, patent infringement, etc, and so on, etc!
Ask Me How I Really Feel About This Kind Of Crap?
Gene

 

[Scozz]

Smoking is "definitely"
an indication to discontinue (and question) use of the product ! Who wouldn't be concerned about "smoke?"

Here’s a link to the full details. Scroll down to the bottom of the page where it says,... “CLICK HERE TO READ THE ATTENUATOR FAQ”,.... click on it.

https://www.tedweber.com/minimass

 

[Gene Ballzz]

Mmmm yeah.
This thread is 2 weeks old.

And your point is what other than endorsing the cost benefits of Boogera crap-o-la ?

Come on man you got to admit that shit is bottom of the barrel [none cheaper] stuff.
Like whats cheaper than Behringer stuff ... ? Nothing.

I think some of the Mono-Price and/or Joyo stuff might be priced to make Bugera seem like "PREMIUM" products!

Just Sayin'
Gene

 

[charveldan]

I bought a no name wampler buffer knock-off thats not bad but it doesnt have 500 volts running throught it.

I have a feeling Uli Behringer hides behind the EU Lawyers to keep American Companies from suing his pants off for copy-write infringement.