What OD for JCM 800, and how to a driven amp with a boost for solo

Discussion in 'The Tone Zone' started by Mathias Karlsson, Oct 3, 2021.

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Boss SD-1 or Boss SD-1 Waza

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  1. Boss SD-1

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  1. Mathias Karlsson

    Mathias Karlsson New Member

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    I have a JCM 800 and now i have some pedals on my radar to push my amp for more distortion. I play fast rythm punk music.
    No punk rock or pop or that kind of stuff.


    I was thinking that maybe i could even stack 2 pedals for more push into the amp but then it feels like the amp is at max, and i would really like to boost in some way for minor solos or riffs that needs to stand out.
    (No i have NO fx-loop and only 1 channel)

    These are the pedals i have to chose from:
    Digitech DOD FX40-B
    Zvex Super Hard On
    ProCo Turbo Rat
    Boss DS-1
    Catalinbread SFT
    Ibanez Tubescreamer (Analogman silver mod)

    What do you think would be the best setup for a nice rythmsound with ampdistortion and clarity, but if possible also have to option to boost the tone some DB.

    one pedal to drive the amp and one for solo boost

    This setup will be for live use.

    Kind regards!
     
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  2. scozz

    scozz Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    I’m not familiar with the kind of music you’re into, so I wouldn’t know what pedal you would most benefit from. But I’m wondering why you say,…

    ”These are the pedals I have to choose from”


    Does that mean we need to recommend one from your list?

    If not, I would recommend a Sd1, (not on your list), but it’s a great pedal to use with any Marshall imo. But not as an overdrive so much, more as a clean boost imo.
     
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  3. scozz

    scozz Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Oh, btw, welcome to the Marshall Forum!
    :cheers:
     
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  4. ricksdisconnected

    ricksdisconnected Well-Known Member

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    hell if you have the pedals in front of you nobody can answer this question better than you.
     
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    ricksdisconnected Well-Known Member

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  6. Mathias Karlsson

    Mathias Karlsson New Member

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    thabks for the welcome and reply!
    No it’s the pedals my buddy have that i can use :)
     
  7. fitz288

    fitz288 Well-Known Yinzer Silver Supporting Member

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    Welcome.
    I'd also recommend the SD-1, but I use the gain knob...
    But if that's all you got to choose from, I'd start with the tube screamer.
     
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  8. Mathias Karlsson

    Mathias Karlsson New Member

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    that is true! Was just looking for tips
    Thanks for the welcome
     
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    ricksdisconnected Well-Known Member

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    oh tips......ok,
    try every one he has so you dont have to buy your own and waste money on a pedal you wont use or dont like. :cheers:
     
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  10. marshallmellowed

    marshallmellowed Well-Known Member

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    I'm interpreting your post, as you are looking for a "volume boost" for solos, is that correct?
     
  11. dodona

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    pedals like the Boss DS1 and the Rat are too much distortion for a 800. Get a Klon clone for cheap. That's it.
     
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  12. crossroadsnyc

    crossroadsnyc Senior Moderator Staff Member

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    Thank your friend for offering the use of his pedals, and then go buy yourself a Boss SD-1.
     
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    Although not in your list, the two OD pedals I use in front of my JCM 800 are the Xotic RC Booster and BB Preamp.

    I use the RC for a transparent push that just adds a little bit of grit. Not much....

    The BB is used for solos and heavier things. The BB is similar to a tube screamer circuit.

    The great thing about the Xotic OD pedals is they come with a bass and treble control, so you can really tailor to get your tone.
     
  14. Mathias Karlsson

    Mathias Karlsson New Member

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    yeah that’s right!
    Sorry if my English is bad :p
     
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    pedecamp Well-Known Member

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    Theres 2 ways to get a volume lead boost on your amp, install an effects loop or use a foot switchable attenuator. From your list I like the Rat and the Tubescreamer.
     
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    Steve Vai and Nuno Bettencourt disagree.

    Blanket statements are BS anyway. It's part of a chain, depends on the player and what he wants to achieve.
    The only generic answer is: "any of them can be dialed to sound good, try them and see which one works for you and the rest of your gear".
     
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    marshallmellowed Well-Known Member

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    OK, thanks. Yes, that's going to be a little tougher. As mentioned, adding an FX loop would be the most logical, and would improve the sound of time-based FX. Aside from adding an FX loop, some sort of volume boost after the amp would have to be implemented. This can be done with certain re-amping devices, or, if going through a PA, using digital mixer controls.
     
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  18. jeffb

    jeffb Well-Known Member

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    Well BITD I ran my JMP 2104 and 2204 into my 4x12 G12-65 cab with....

    For my Gibson setups- I used a MXR Distortion +. Then I went though some Tube Screamers- TS9 original, then a TS10. I gave up on the Ibanez pedals, the switches sucked on those oold Ibby/Maxons. I switched over to a Boss SD-1.

    For my Strat setups I used a Boss DS-1 and a SD-1. I borrowed an OD1 for awhile and that was absolutely my fave of the early BOSS pedals. Way better than the SD-1.

    I used them all as a goose for leads, not my main sound. Levels High, Gain/Drive Low.

    I also had good luck tonally with a DOD FX 50 Overdrive and FX 55(?) Distortion- Same same- Levels high, gain low. Switches sucked though, like the Ibanez.

    If I were to buy another 2204 or a SC20, I'd probably grab some sort of BOSS OD1 clone or maybe the WAZA SD-1 for the Custom mode. I just can't deal with the TS tone anymore. Echoplex types pre-amps are great for NMVs but most brighten the tone and add a little fizz on top- something the MV 2203/4s don't need, IMO.
     
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  19. ricksdisconnected

    ricksdisconnected Well-Known Member

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    hated how the OD1 light didnt stay on, it just flashed once.
     
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    jeffb Well-Known Member

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    True. But considering I had a early Phase 90 and D+ with no LED at all....it was an improvement ;)
     

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