Wax Potting Pickups - A Primer With Photos!

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  1. El Gringo

    El Gringo Well-Known Member

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    Problem solved, I sent the Gibson Patent # T-Tops to ThroBak and got some nice shiny new gold covers for them .They did not wax pot them as that was not the way Gibson did them in the first place and ditto for my Custombuckers in my 2014 R9 .What they did was use a piece of tape on the slug side of the coil and 3 drops of silicon to adhere the inside of the cover to the coil and then solder the cover in 2 places to the baseplate of the pickup .I had the output measured on both of the pickups and both pickups read at 7.7k,to which I was very pleasantly surprised at ,because I have seen a lot of readings on these pickups in the 7.3-7.5k range .So I am very happy about that and maybe later on I will have these restored into my beloved first guitar my early 70's Gibson Les Paul Custom .I can not say enough wonderful things about ThroBak and specifically John Gundry ,my sincere compliments to ThroBak and I am looking at the ThroBak SLE- 101 Plus pickups for a couple of my other Gibson Les Paul's .
     
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    ^^^El Gringo, did they say why they would not wax pot them besides that it is not the way it was done in the 60's?
    I have a T-Top set and the wax so I have been thinking about it. But the tape and glue worked just as well?
     
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    I just recently ordered a set of ThroBak SLE-101 Plus pickups and requested to have them wax potted and I was told that I might lose some highs from the wax potting , well let me tell you I had plenty of highs to spare and then some .I love these pickups in the R8 Les Paul and the junk squealing Burstbucker 1&3 that I replaced because they squealed a ton , which absolutely drove me mad playing thru my Marshall 2555X.
     
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    My LP has BB 1 and 2, no squeal what so ever, they are my favorite sounding humbucker, vintage tone and open airy sound.
     
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    I am glad that yours did not squeal because mine did and the best thing I did was remove them from my R8 and problem solved as the ThroBak pickups rock and now are my favorite pickups . Someone else told me that they had Burstbucker pickups and also had no squeal problems .
     
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    Did you get them new in a guitar or used? Are they covered or uncovered? Do they have a label on the under side saying what they are?
     
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    new in my R8 , with covers from Gibson Custom
     
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    Can I ask what amp were you using when you played yours? Because I was using my 2555X with the gain up and like I said before the squeal was unbearable . I talked to someone else that also said he had them in a Les Paul and they worked fine for him with his Marshall ,so maybe I just got a bad pair .I have to count my blessings because I discovered ThroBak earlier this spring when I found my original Gibson Patent# sticker T-Tops from my 71 Gibson Les Paul Custom that did not have covers and I sent them to ThroBak for shiny new gold covers which I wanted to have them wax potted but instead ThroBak used a piece of two sided tape on the slug coil with 3 drops of silicone to adhere the cover to the tape on top of the slug coil .Which my Les Paul Custom has the Gibson 57 classic in the neck and the Gibson 57 Classic + in the bridge and they are nice(someday I will restore the originals back into my Custom, the reason why I did not wax pott them was because ThroBak told me that I would de value them by altering them and then not being original as the way they came from Gibson ) and my R9 has Gibson Custombuckers (lightly wax potted) which used to be my favorite pickups .The ThroBak SLE-101 Plus just take it to the next level -holy grail of tone to my ears ,because I don't have 10 grand laying around for a vintage set of Gibson PAF 's and I kick my self because in the early 90's I could have had vintage PAF's for 500 a pop and I was like no way am I paying that much and now looking back I was a little to tight back then and I didn't have the funds .To describe the ThroBak's to my ears the neck pickup is so clean and none of that bottom end mushiness and bassy sounds a lot of neck humbuckers are known for and the bridge pickup where my bread and butter is just pure sonic heaven because I like to crank the volume and the gain and this bridge pickup has so much sustain and tone and it is perfect with my 2555X .Just like the way a good PAF in a Les Paul is supposed to sound and I did have them wax potted and ThroBak warned me that I might lose some high tones but let me tell you I have highs to spare ,and the pickups are just perfect and the sustain is endless and I know I am repeating myself but I have to. I thought that I might have had a tone turd piece of wood with the R8 but with the ThroBak pickups this R8 just sings and to my ears the ThroBak are best pickups next to Vintage PAF's and they are wound on the same machines that Gibson used in the old KZOO factory and made the same way with the same materials and they are very period correct and source the same materials that Gibson used in the Golden era and the same machines and it is like they are making them in a time machine and really knocking it out with the details and materials . They have me sold on them which you can probably tell . To answer your original question the Burstbuckers have the Patent Applied For sticker on the underside and a 1 & 3 and I can't remember if there is something else written on them because I only seen the underside for a second when I got them back from the tech .
     
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    My goldtop is a custom shop 57 reissue, came stock with Burstbucker 1 and 2, the most glorious pickups I ever heard. Any amp I ever played it through no squeals. I will give you an instant where I did get squeal with Gibson humbuckers but not these, I put a 57 Classic Plus and 57 Classic in my SG and love them, they were uncovered pickups and my high E string frequently caught the edge of the pickups and got stuck (I'm an aggressive player). So I put covers on them to fix that problem but then the pickups squealed like a pig with any gain on them, so I fired up my wax pot on the stove and wax potted them and no more squeal. Its an easy fix and I suggest you wax pot your squealing pickups, it did not affect their tone at all to my ears. Another story, I bought a pair of Burstbucker 1 and 2 to put in another guitar, I wanted the pickups to be uncovered so I unsoldered the covers and to my surprise there was plenty of wax in it, I thought these pickups were supposed to be unwaxed, I guess not.
     
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    The Burstbucker pickups are in the box and I will not be using them as I have the ThroBak's . From things I have heard from others I was the only one with the bum pair and that's enough for me because it was a pain in the neck .
     
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    I'm not El Gringo but Pat. Number's were wound on butyrate bobbins: this material would melt in boiling wax - and it smells like vomit when touched with a hot soldering iron, for those who'd want to check which kind of plastic their bobbins are made of...

    And yes, tape + silicon work fine most of the time (although there's other tricks to kill squealing feedback).

    FWIW. :)

    EDIT - Oups, I've replied to a post wrote 2 years ago, sorry. Maybe at least my answer will be useful for other readers...
     
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