WARNING!! Don't look, its bad.

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  1. Drinkingdeath01

    Drinkingdeath01 Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    So I won a 2210 off of ebay for a good price and this is how those idiots at UPS delivered it. The listing pics show it looking fine and it was packed pretty good. Once I cut away the bubble wrap this is what I found.
    Now I understand that UPS is more or less regional but it seems like the last couple of years their service has tanked. They don't ring the doorbell anymore especially if its a heavy item. They just constantly slap a sticker on the door because they're too lazy to move a fricken box. I hate UPS and I only ship Fed Ex.

    So this is how it arrived. What the [email protected] UPS ?
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    Drinkingdeath01 Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    The chassis is even ripped off of the bottom of the head shell.

    I recently took an amp to the UPS store to ship it to David Hopkins for a mod, the clerks at the store told me that they couldn't insure it because I packed it myself and didn't buy a box from them and pay them to pack it. I told them to pound [email protected] sand and took it to FedEx and they shipped it with no problems.

    Sorry for the rant, I was looking forward to checking this amp out tonight and now I'm just stuck gritting my teeth while hand loading more ammo.
     
  3. mickeydg5

    mickeydg5 Well-Known Member

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    Open a claim.
    They usually do not ask for the merchandise.
    After you get your money back, fix it or whatever you want to do.

    Tell us how it goes.
     
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    Drinkingdeath01 Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    That's kind of my plan. I really don't want to send it back but I definitely need someone to pay for a new headshell and a good looking over by a tech. I feel bad for the seller but I hope he had it insured.
     
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    mickeydg5 Well-Known Member

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    Either way he should get his insurance money and you should get your money back.
    The delivery service fuucked up and should pay for it.
     
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    RLW59 Well-Known Member

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    Ouch! That sucks.

    Minor consolation is that the chassis looks like it survived pretty well. The transformers didn't tear loose, and don't seem to have bent anything. Quite possible it's electrically fine and you just need to repair/replace the headshell.

    I worked a Christmas season in a UPS distribution center. Incoming things got taken off trucks and put onto conveyor belts then put onto different outbound trucks.

    The conveyor system is mindboggling. 4 different levels -- the top one about 40 feet above the floor. Belts make 90° turns using steel ramps -- going up, the motorized rubber belt straight sections push a log jam up and around the slides, going down the boxes get to the end of the belt and whoosh down the slides (banging against the outer wall of the slides both ways).

    Awkwardly balanced boxes often tumble off the slides under the best circumstances. But sometimes a few boxes get wedged in a slide, then the log jam gets stuck and boxes start falling left and right. When that happens they stop all the belts and a special crew rappels down from catwalks at the top level to break up the jam. But dozens of boxes can hit the ground before they hit the stop button. (Shutting all the belts down is a huge productivity loss, so they often wait a bit to see if a jam will work itself loose.)

    That amount of damage probably wasn't caused by a careless human loader or delivery driver. It got jammed up in a mechanical system where it dropped 10, 20,30 feet or more onto a concrete floor.
     
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    mickeydg5 Well-Known Member

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    I have done the same on several amplifier, tube and speaker transactions.

    Tubes are a bust. Speakers can be reconed if worth it. The amplifier I got which was dropped hard enough to warp the frame got a full refund so it was a lot of vintage amplfiier parts for me. :)

    Turn lemons into lemonade if possible.
     
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    crossroadsnyc Senior Moderator Staff Member

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    If I were you I'd be lapping my living room right now, w/an occasional trip to the bathroom to look into the mirror for that imaginary angry verbal confrontation.
     
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    This is why I say, ship heads in a good road case. Or pack it in polyester foam 2 inches thick on all sides around the amp in a 275 pound test doublewall cardboard box at the minimum. Because anything less is not good enough to survive UPS on a bad day.


    Something odd, though....GREEN full height power supply capacitors? On a JCM800? How on earth can that be? Because Daly only made those capacitors with green shrink labels for a portion of 1971 to the very best of my knowledge.
     
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    mickeydg5 Well-Known Member

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    What dimension do you live in at this moment?
    This is par for the course and you should learn to deal with it.
    It should be expected for a percentage of all transactions.

    I have been thinking about and looking into the 4th and 5th dimension by the way.
    I am pretty sure you are one of those numbers guys.
    You have expressed it in the past.
     
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    crossroadsnyc Senior Moderator Staff Member

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    It might be a different dimension. I'll have to check my math.

    Fun fact: My dimension has self deprecating humor. We also make awesome hot dogs. You're welcome for some if we ever cross paths!
     
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    mickeydg5 Well-Known Member

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    I have had heads, combos and cabinets shipped in boxes filled with peanuts and Styrofoam crap. No problems if done adequately.

    Road cases are extra cost unless you want the case.

    Still if dropped from 30 or 40 feet, no case or packaging is going to help.
     
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    mickeydg5 Well-Known Member

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    Dude I cannot stomach hot dogs for the most part because of the processing but if you got a nice beef corn dog I might oblige, once in a while. :D

    I like family fun local fairs in other words.
    I usually go for the "meat"kabobs and my wife likes gyro.
    :D
     
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    crossroadsnyc Senior Moderator Staff Member

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    I didn't have a better place to put this, so I'll leave it here. I never even knew about this guy. Not bad for not having played the song in a decade. Oh, and he looks like a really nice dude. Such a good song too.

     
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    mickeydg5 Well-Known Member

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    By the way there is five according to humans I believe. Pick one.
    Let me know.
     
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    crossroadsnyc Senior Moderator Staff Member

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    You can't go wrong w/either one. I take it you two like Greek food?
     
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    crossroadsnyc Senior Moderator Staff Member

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    Why should I pick one when I have four others to choose from?
     
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    mickeydg5 Well-Known Member

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    Yes it is good and do it once in a while.
     

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