(VIDEO) Marshall vs Friedman (JCM800 SC20H vs Dirty Shirley Mini)

Discussion in 'Marshall Amps' started by Del Rei, Nov 17, 2020.

  1. Rooster-p

    Rooster-p Member Gold Supporting Member

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    I would take the pink taco over either one of them all day in any situation.
     
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    @SuperFleeky Hey, man. In what volumes do you usually play? I noticed that when I turn up the Master, that annoying low end tend to go away. And also when I used the V30 there was more balanced tone with my DSM. Love the amp, but would be nice to have a presence knob.

    @Carl M Wish I could try the SV....

    @Rooster-p I'd love to try this one too, man.
     
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  3. AlboK

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    Marshall are generally brighter in the upper mids & highs than the Friedmans and cut through mix better. However that SC20 sounds like garbadge. I've tried two of them at G.C and sound too bright and not much gain going on at all. They sound good with a pedal but without a pedal it sucks pretty badly. And doesn't sound like my 1982 2204. I have a Silver Mini Jubilee which has a tone more gain and low end thump. It's a little darker though.
     
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  4. AlboK

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    Marshall is $200 less than the Friedman new.
     
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  5. AlboK

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    No it's not. The Mini Friedman is $1499 & Marshall is $1299.
     
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  6. AlboK

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    You have the SC20c and love it? Really with that horrilbe 10" speaker? Have you ever play an original JCM 800? That combo sounds nothing like my original 2204 comb. Not ever close.
     
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    SV20 is the best of the Studio series. But no M.V is a no go here.
     
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  8. AlboK

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    I would take Taco Bell over any one of them
     
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    What a great demo! I think I'm in the minority that liked the Friedman better. It had more of that low end thunk that my 100 Watt Super Bass has.
     
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    they are talking about EU & AUS prices...
     
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    The DS sounds mid-scooped to my ear...

    Marshall for the win!

    Although, they sound pretty much of the same basic engine. You should be able to dial in some mid's on the DS & get pretty much on-par w/ the SC...
     
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    If you ever have to have one repaired or even talk to customer service then tell me which is better. There is no better customer service than Friedman and that is well worth the extra bucks. Not even in the same ballpark but nothing personal to you Marshall fans out there, it's like apple's and orange's.
     
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    Love my combo also I can max the master and still stays tight! I owned probably 30 amps is 13 years lol and a couple half stacks. Amps will sound different from one place to another!
     
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    I dont know, love the SC bite and mids it has I have both. Sold the Jubilee.
     
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    On its own...Friedman is better, warmer. And the Marshall sounds exactly like an 800. In all its annoying bright honking spongy goodness.

    But in the mix...the Marshall slayed. And the Friedman...well it could have been a Peavey or a solid state amp at that point. Not bad on rhythm but didn't wasn't distinct on lead.

    I never thought I'd come around to that POV since I prefer a warm tone myself. But everything changes when there's two distinct guitars competing for voicing.
     
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    I have experienced something like this in the past from an independent auido plugin developer. The plugin had potential but it still needed alot of work to get it right. And apparently it was more work than he wanted to get involved with for finishing it. I haven't used an OX, but I would think it would need some pretty complex dsp to even halfway pull it off.
     
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    I guess I did a driveby reading and listening in this thread. I didn't realize the Friedman amp was a mini.
     
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    Lol
     
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    combo is $3000 2 channel would be nice but its a lot of paper:)
     

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