V30 vs Creamback

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  1. TXOldRedRocker

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    I have a 2x12 with a G12 M Greenie and a G12H Celestion flavor. Experiment that didn't work out. G12H is being pulled. Today I ordered a V30 to put in with the Greenback. It'll be here in a few days. My first thought was a Creamback to go in there, but the more research I did, I felt the V30 + Greenback has the best chance to work out for my taste in music tone. If this fails, Creamback would likely be next to try. Would just have to decide which one, first.
     
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    If this helps, I own a lot of different Celestion speakers.
    The V30 is a standard in the industry, with a reason.
    They're just great sounding speakers.

    I personally think the Creamback M65 is the best companion for a V30.
    The Creamback H75 is nice too, but sounds a bit dirtier/vintage then the M65.
    I think the M65 is just a bit more pleasant overall, but that's just my opinion.
    I've made a few speaker comparisons on my YouTube channel.
    If it helps, this is one of my older comparisons:
     
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    Vertical or horizontal? I played around mixing these three (and a few others). The Greenback is 2db less sensitive BUT it’s got a very strong top end (without fizz) that if pointed at you can be overbearing even over the v30. At a distance, there’s a bit of phasing going on that make the combo sound darker. But I love to have these two speakers on tap.. each on a mic too. The creamback kind of makes a better balance if it’s in a vertical on top pointed at you due to its tame top end. I find the creamback does well with a little added treble on the amp if your looking for that greenback crang!

    I finally gave up and have setup an auto switch. Greenback open back on the classic channel and it switches to my vintage 30 in a Marshall cab modified to a “Thiele” ported cab when I select the gain channel. Yes, make before break for the techies lol. Sounds THE best in each mode for me this way.
     
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    Horizontal. I like it enough I'm unlikely to change the setup any time soon. 2 db rating difference is definitely within reason for paired speakers.

    Someday when I stop buying guitars and pedals, I may buy a creamback to experiment with.

    Also, I have a stereo setup where I can run my Fender Princeton Reverb combo with one of my two amp heads powering the 2x12. The Fender has a 12" Eminence Cannabis Rex. The three speakers running together sound absolutely amazing. It's now very rare I don't have all three running.

     
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    Ya, it’s a great mix isn’t it. Running a few speakers definitely produces that nice huge enveloping sound you can never get out of one driver; just the physics of it. Moving around in that envelope is a whole other ball game. I have a hard time mixing speakers enough as it is so I find the horizontal layout just adds another layer of disappointment and favourite spots to stand lol. but I’m just too fussy with this stuff. Now guitar speakers outside of Celestion’s lineup I haven played with a whole lot.. not cause I don’t want to.. it would just take me down a whole bunch of new rabbit holes haha.
     
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    For me the Creamback 65’s work perfect for me in my 1960A cabinet. I’m using a JVM410H for my amp. For me it’s a the perfect match for classic rock. I have tried a lot of speakers from vintage to new. The Creambacks as far as I’m concerned is my bet match to date.
     
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