Tuned Back To A440

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  1. charveldan

    charveldan Well-Known Member

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    Been playing E flat for a few years. The cold weather has caused some tuning issues so i tuned back to A440.
    Strings are D'Addario .011 to .056, im digging the tone but there's a bit more tension on them now.
    My 74' SG with a Bigsby stays in tune better @ A440.
    So far im liking it. Had to go back to 5 springs on my trem guitars.
     
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    HeHasTheJazzHands Well-Known Member

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    Might wanna try some 10 - 52s.

    I used to be in the same boat. Used 11 - 56 in Eb. Years later, in a much different boat. Using 10 - 48 in Eb and 9 - 46 in E. :lol: I like to use multiple tunings, though. Gives me an excuse to hoard guitars. ;)
     
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    charveldan Well-Known Member

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    I practiced for an hour on lunch. It can be brutal but so far okay. Trying to get used to the pitch again.
    2 handed technique is going to be harder.
    Single notes sure do scream out.
     
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    Angus Rhoads Well-Known Member

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    Have you tried the D'Addario XL 9.5 - 44 set? I really like them on my Jackson and Charvel (on my LPs I still go with the standard 9 - 46).
     
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    You just got used to the lower tension that's all. Gotta muscle it. An LP's 24 scale is still less tension than a Strat's 25.75 scale. Get used to a Strat and then an LP is like butter.
     
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    I keep my Strat in Eb and everything else in E... it messes with me for a few minutes when I switch back and forth.
     
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    Switched to Elixir 10-52s on all my guitars (24.75" and 25.5" scale) years ago. My hands got used to them. Recently had a friend over bringing me his Jackson Warrior for some work. He's tuned to Standard A sharp with a set of 12-60 strings. Felt like spaghetti in my hands.

    Once you up the gauge everything lighter will just feel and sound wrong... YMMV
     
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    I always thought it was the other way around. The longer the string, the "looser" it is; the easier it is to bend.
     
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    String bend on a bass tuned to A440 with a 36" scale. much easier on a Gibson EBO with the shorter scale.
     
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    Eb ***is*** Eb in A440 (aka A=440hz)

    What you're referring to is 5th string = 440hz standard tuning

    Non-A440 tunings REDEFINE the value/meaning of a note.... so their notion of an A note is flatter or sharper than yours, or drifts so far it's not just out of tune but a wholly other note according to the rest of the world (they call it "A", our tuner reads "G" or "C" for example)
     
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    I always understood Eb to be A440 just flat. No? E is still at A440.
     
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    and were off ...
     
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    Ahhh, hah hah ha.
     
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    Yes. A440 is a fixed value assigned to represent an A note, that determines the value of all other notes.

    For guitar purposes on the internet, EVERYTHING is in A440... it's not tuning as in what notes to tune what string to, but a re-definition of what an A note is.

    Historical wackiness and pre-electronic lack of measurement equipment means A has fluctuated all the way between low 400's and 480 in the past. So an A480 player would be tuned a lot higher, but would still claim to be in EADGBE and call notes and chords by their fingerings relative to Estd tuning, instead of what note they actually produce (according to non-tonedeaf modern people who think in A440).

    Meanwhile, some orchestras still mess around and do everything in something like A443, just because... and Cuban national orchestra allegedly tunes to A436, because strings cost money and tuning lower reduces breakage. (Possibly BS)

    Oddly, no one seems to moan about them being out of tune.
     
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    Always use to refer to 430 to tune down a semitone. It was never done to make the guitar sound better or strings last longer, just to make things easier for the vocalist.
     
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    Went back to E flat. Better feel, better sound.
    Good to stretch my strings tho.
     
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    Why do you not just get a baritone if like the flat tuning and fat strings?
     
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    Nah, I like where mine are now. Enough tension to where it stays stable, but enough slack for sweet bends.
     
  20. Marshall4Metal

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    E standard for me. I haven't tuned to E flat for a few years now. The band I was in and still throwdown with plays in E .
     

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