Trying to save my hearing

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  1. Adey1981

    Adey1981 Active Member

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    I've been using these for the last couple of years
    https://www.gak.co.uk/en/gak-arena-hi-fidelity-ear-plugs/908875

    I tried those flanged type ear buds and but my right ear canal is too big and they wont fit.

    I'm finding band practice still too loud, and my ears are sore after every session. It's mainly our drummer I think, he hits his cymbals really hard, (but hits his snare really soft and cant even hear his kickdrum) and has zbt cymbals which according to the internet will hurt ears.

    So are there any decent ear defender type products aim at musicians who need flat attenuation?

    I found a product a few years ago for around £80 but cant find them anymore.

    Cheers
     
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    Here we have hearing centers that just make a mold of your ear, and then custom makes them. You can chose the filter they put in, like 10dB, 15 dB. It has a flat response, perfect for loud gigs. Cost was around 150€
     
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  5. Adey1981

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    @StingRay85
    I've had a look for something similar in the UK and none of the websites say how much they cost. I think it's one of those "If you have to ask, you cant afford it" deals
    I'll keep looking though, thank you

    @RCM 800
    Anyone tried those Decibullz Hi-Fidelity ear plugs? They are moldable and filtered for £50 worth a punt maybe?
     
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    Just get those typical foam earplugs, scrunch them up and jam them in youll be good to go! :yesway:
     
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    Point your amp at the drummer.
     
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  9. Adey1981

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    Nah, it's too muffled, I can't hear myself and it feels disconnected. Definitely need filtered plugs or linear attenuating cans.

    I do that anyway, and he loves it! It's no deterrent
     
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    The best thing I've read all day.
    Cymbals and playing with a brass section will destroy your ears the fastest.
    If your guy is cracking cymbals all the time he should be upgrading from entry level equipment which is what zbt's are (and not the best sounding, either) and/or taking a serious look at his technique. Although, I've cracked both a 20 inch ride cymbal and a pair of hihats and I never thought I'd do that. In a band with two players w 100watt Marshalls oddly enough.
     
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    You can put them in loose or tight or anywhere in between depending how much sound you want to come through.

    Or check out a product called Hearos. :yesway:
     
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    Dave Grohl used them for Nirvanas mtv unplugged, maybe help sell him on them lol.
     
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    I have some Hearos. They come in different amounts of dampening. They work well.
     
  14. Adey1981

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    I tried the Hearos (the flanged ones) and as I mentioned they dont fit.
    As for the regular foam ones. They'd need to be fully in to give enough protection (for me) and by then you get the 'under water' effect.

    I think I might have to give the Decibullz Hi-Fi a shot. They can be molded and are filtered too, 31nr I believe.

    My ears still hurt now and practice was 4 days ago. If I cant figure something out soon I'll have to quit being in a band or go deaf.
     
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    The trouble is though, he already hits his snare really soft on the back beat, and cant even hear his kick drum. But hits the HH really hard with no accents. It's like the machine gun effect in a badly programmed drum vsti. Plus he hits his crash at the start of every f***ing bar!

    Maybe I need to be in a better band, but we're mates, y'know?

    I think next practice I'll just wear my 3M Peltor optime ear defenders and if I cant hear or play properly then it's tough titties.
    Or I could just man-up voice my concerns?

    Mmm, decisions, decisions....
    :rolleyes:
     
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    Yes, drummers can really damage your ears especially the cymbals. Neal Schon attributes cymbals to his Tinnitus. I simply use the foam plugs, its not work losing you hearing or worse getting tinnitus. Try different mfgs of these plugs they have different sizes that might work.
     
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    If he cant/wont play softer which a good drummer can do, go buy a 6/7 ft plexi wall and cage his ass in it. That will block his cymbals and he can beat as hard as he wants. Nothing is worth losing your hearing!
     
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    Time to find a drummer...or put him in an isolated room if he can't play within band level... We used to do that with our drummer back then when he's hitting the cymbals louder than his kit....
     
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    I use Westone TRU 16db ear plugs.

    Google them. They have custom fitted models also.
     
  20. Adey1981

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    Update

    I broached the subject with the band and we are gonna try a few things. Our singer (who also drums well) said he can put some tape on the cymbals which will tame them if done right. Also the drummer is gonna hit the cymbals with the tip of the stick instead of the edge. Maybe we can angle them so forces him to use the tip.

    I think building an enclosure for him might be seen as a bit OTT by the band, I've not suggested that yet.

    We'll see how this goes and I'll get those Decibullz plugs too.

    Cheers chaps :hbang:
     

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