Trainwrecks and Dumbles

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  1. neoclassical

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    Can anyone point me to some recordings where these amps are used? Idk if I've ever heard one (but probably have) in a band mix. I want to hear what the hype is all about and expand my range of listening, but not just hear the amp alone on a YT video.

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    Matt O'Ree of the Matt O'Ree Band uses Trainwrecks.
    He demos a few models.
    Here's his YT channel.
    www.youtube.com/user/MOBontv/videos

    BP
    p.s. Ooops... you didn't want a YT channel!!
     
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    Trainwreck
    Warren Haynes. Keith Urban. Brad Paisley. Mark Knopfler. Billy Gibbons.

    Dumble
    Eric Clapton. Sonny Landreth. Stephen Bruton. Larry Carlton. Robben Ford. David Lindley. John Mayer. Lowell George. Carlos Santana. Stevie Ray Vaughan. Henry Kaiser. Joe Bonamassa. Keith Urban. Steve Kimock. Ben Harper. Eric Johnson. Kirk Hammett. Jason Isbell. Kenny Wayne Shepherd. Jackson Browne.

    :hippie::pirate::uk:
     
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    It's not the hype that comes from Dumble.
    It's the hype from imitations of Dumble - the people who try to use Dumble's name to sell imitations.
    And none of the imitations actually sound like Dumble.



     
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    A member on vintageamps.com more than a decade ago posted his trainwreck with an LP. It sounded fabulous, very touch sensitive. It covered all the ground nicely clean to driven using just the LP's v pot. I couldn't find the clip but here is a few examples.

     
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    Oh, I guess I've heard a ton of them.
     
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    Robben Ford and Stevie Ray Vaughan both used (use, in Robben's case) Dumbles extensively.

    Dumbles are not metal/high gain amps. The beauty of them is in the clean to moderate overdrive range. SRV's tone is about as crunchy as you ever hear a Dumble get, and that's with a Tube Screamer boosting it.

    Frankly I much prefer a cranked Super Lead. Because it's more of a hard/classic rock sound.
     
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    Almost certainly on albums, pretty likely if you've caught a live gig.

    One of the things about them is they are not obtrusive, they DON'T scream at you out of the mix, rather they sit incredibly well inside the mix, sounding sweet and rich and producing dirt when needed rather than constantly. Less is more...

    :hippie::pirate::uk:
     
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    Glen's Trainwreck has to be one of the best sounding examples out there. Playing is fine.
     
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    I have a Dumble clone and it is a great amp,BUT you have to really tweak them. The smallest change to the tone controls can really have a big affect on the tone. If you don't like tweaking your amps and like an amp that you just plug in an take off don't buy any type of Dumble clone. I can't speak for Trainwreck. Also,as someone else pointed out they aren't really heavy sounding amps. The circuit is a bit weird and when you set up one channel for high gain it will probably screw up your clean setting. So even though they area channel switching amps they really can only do one tone at a time without you having to re-adjust your amp settings. One thing I do really like is the OD Special has a small adjustment pot on the back that enables you to tweak how much preamp gain you want. They are very Fender sounding ,but with much more midrange. Not scooped like a Fender. Lowell George once described them as " a Fender done right".
     
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    both are overrated as anything can possibly get. their tones are not that unique
    and they dont sound like anything special imo. tons of better sounding amps
    out there.
     
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    Yeah the dummies in the little town i live in want to ban train whistles because they are claiming its hurting their business and scaring the customers.

    Wait till theres a Trainwreck see how that scares away the business!

    Whats a Train?
     
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    Yep, then when they get hit at the tracks the family will file a lawsuit, people suck.
     
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    There’s something in the Trainwreck overdrive that gets on my nerves after a while. I can’t put my finger on it. It’s not muddy but maybe like a blanket on it idk. I hear it even in the clones like the Fuchs train 45 .
     
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    I drank the Kool-Aid hook, line & sinker. Mostly out of curiosity.

    I have 2 clones, both Trainwreck & Dumble. I play very low volumes at home. Both Amp heads sit and collect dust.

    $2K retail Trainwreck clone is SPECTACULAR. Two EL-34s seething with tone. NMV it's too damn LOUD!!!

    $3K retail Dumble I am puzzled how to get a use able sound. The sound is there, but it doesn't justify $3K. I don't like onboard overdrives for the life of me. That's why G-d invented pedals. I prefer Trainwreck circuit, which is Marshallesque.

    There was a Hollywood stuido musician in the 70's-80's who used a Dumble exlusivley for major TV show intros, like Rockford Files and Magnum PI. That's where the Dumble originally built it's fine reputation. I'm probably wrong, could be hearsay.

    https://www.vintageguitar.com/31567/dumble-overdrive-special-od150-wr/

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    That picture is freaking awesome hahahahaahah
    Is this Magnum?
     

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