they say this debunks the AZ studio moon landing...

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LIfe on other planets? Sure, you bet. NO WAY are we the galaxy's only unique special flowers. Life is biology, biology is chemistry, and anywhere in the universe where there is an abundance of energy and the requisite elements in more or less the right proportions, life will exist. There will be plenty of planets to be found that are in the habitable zone and have a more or less earthlike distribution of elements. The prime ones are Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen, and Nitrogen. Lesser quantities of other elements will be needed of course, but will be present. Now add water on a planet that varies in temperature enough to have both frozen and liquid water, and you've got the basic starting conditions for the formation of life "as we know it".

We're not alone, we just aren't in contact with our neighbors YET.

It'd be improbable in the extreme for us to be the only physical, sentient life in this galaxy. I'd say impossible. The only thing "special" about us is our belief that we are alone and that's just a matter of isolation that will eventually be overcome with advances in technology that bridges the distances between worlds and solar systems....and eventually, even galaxies.
Yeah, I know. The old "It would be completely arrogant for us to believe we're the only intelligent life in the universe", blah, blah...
By whose standard anyway?
Explain to the homeless in the USA, and those stricken with cancer and all the rest of the diseases, why the humans pour billions of dollars into wasted space experimentation instead of fixing all the crap systems on the earth first*. Are we not even more "arrogant" to believe that we could successfully (or even deserve to) colonize another planet when we can't even so little as tell the truth and be honest with ourselves and each other, on this one?

*Unless... unless of course all that great research and development is setting the world up for future deception? Otherwise, I see little use for NASA beyond their supposed invention of digital watches and microwave ovens.

Yeah. Anyway, I can believe about a future deception a lot quicker than I could believe about us all communicating with false aliens from outer space, any time in the next 'Duck Dodgers 24th & 1/2 century'.



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The pentagon extensive camera network missing the jet liner is the first doubt that increased my initial curiousity
Then only showing a few frames of the gas station camera of the explosion but not of the jet striking is like Epsteins jail cameras all dying or out at same time
Yep f i were the govt the jet striking the building would be my first effort to inform the public. Why withhold the pictures and video? That increases my doubts of the narrative
But! I find it interesting so many want to vigorously defend the official narrative and try to put any counter thoughts as “ offensive and crazy talk”
We aren’t crazy to question these incidents.
Having doubts about what we are told is not unhealthy.
Keep in mind that the design of the WTC towers was different from most buildings, in that it didn't have am internal steel structure that supported it (other than the central structure that housed the elevators). The outer skin of the building was the main load-bearing structure. This was revolutionary at the time, because with no internal skeleton the floors could be wide open. This was why the buildings came straight down instead of toppling over.

The fires on the floors damaged by the aircraft were intense enough to weaken the structural stability of just those few floors, which were overcome by the weight of the floors above them. This resulted in the upper (undamaged) portions of the buildings dropping straight down, and once they hit the first undamaged floor the combined weight was enough to start the snowball effect.
yep on twin towers and construction.
Bldg 7 is what i am referring to
 

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Eventually man must colonize other worlds or face extinction. Given the way that societies around the world have decayed in the last few decades, it may well be that the time to do it is now or never. We may fall to such a state that we lose the power of spaceflight and may never get it back. Especially if we have a global nuclear war that leaves large sections of the planet uninhabitable for centuries.

Even if we are able to completely get a grip on ourselves and learn to live with each other and balance our needs with that of the rest of our ecology and become completely sustainable, the fact remains that eventually this world will become uninhabitable. In a few billion years the sun will swell up and become a red giant and cook this earth. More likely an asteroid will strike Earth before that, causing an extinction event.

Colonization is essential. And you do it as soon as you are able.
 

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yep on twin towers and construction.
Bldg 7 is what i am referring to

I never really paid any attention to Building 7 so I don't know a thing about it except that it collapsed. Did a big chunk from one of the towers shoot into it at ground level, or was the ground shaking enough during the collapses of the big buildings to compromise it's stability? I have no clue.
 

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Eventually man must colonize other worlds or face extinction. Given the way that societies around the world have decayed in the last few decades, it may well be that the time to do it is now or never. We may fall to such a state that we lose the power of spaceflight and may never get it back. Especially if we have a global nuclear war that leaves large sections of the planet uninhabitable for centuries.

Even if we are able to completely get a grip on ourselves and learn to live with each other and balance our needs with that of the rest of our ecology and become completely sustainable, the fact remains that eventually this world will become uninhabitable. In a few billion years the sun will swell up and become a red giant and cook this earth. More likely an asteroid will strike Earth before that, causing an extinction event.

Colonization is essential. And you do it as soon as you are able.
No offense , cause i know you are highly intelligent but that outlook of the earth needing to be abandoned and over population is crazy talk , imo
“ we are your overlords” led zep
Many of the richest peeps preach this stuff and many swallow it up, but as George Carlin said “ you aint in the club”
Anyway, love to all the Mfers
 

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I'm already getting deeper into this than I intended but how can the notion of over populating our planet be crazy talk @Crikey ?
 
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I'm already getting deeper into this than I intended but how can the notion of over populating our planet be crazy talk @Crikey ?

Overpopulation is a real problem, the crazy talk part comes in how some people want to deal with it. And by "some people," I'm not talking about the average Joe on the street, I'm talking about the billionaires who have decided that it is up to them to play God with the rest of us.
 

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Overpopulation is a real problem, the crazy talk part comes in how some people want to deal with it.

Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. That makes much more sense than my interpretation of your other post that I was referring to. :)

Edit, lol, my drunk ass didn't realize that you weren't the person that I @'ed.

Edit edit: @'ed might be a good profile name...
 
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BREAKING NEWS!

This just out in CNN News...

Top scientist admits 'space telescope image' was actually a slice of chorizo

 

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BREAKING NEWS!

This just out in CNN News...

Top scientist admits 'space telescope image' was actually a slice of chorizo


Really makes you think!

In a few billion years the sun will swell up and become a red giant and cook this earth.

Are we still talking about going to the moon here? Because if so, I've got some unfortunate news...
 

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Really makes you think!

Are we still talking about going to the moon here? Because if so, I've got some unfortunate news...
Chocolate bars that never expire? :idea:
Please tell me you've invented chocolate bars that don't expire in outer space.
 

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But! I find it interesting so many want to vigorously defend the official narrative and try to put any counter thoughts as “ offensive and crazy talk”
We aren’t crazy to question these incidents.
Having doubts about what we are told is not unhealthy.

You know, to me at least this has been a fairly civilized, gentlemanly discussion. :)

Conficting points of view on quite sensitive topics, pages of back and forth. Arguments and counter arguments. All sprinkled with a bit of humor here and there - and at the end some agree to disagree. No personal insults, no attacks, not even straying into politics. Isn't that what it's supposed to be like?
 

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Assuming the plane hit in the way described, there should be extensive damage to the grass. What I gather from pilots is that it would be practically impossible to get the aircraft in that low above the ground at the estimated speed. I can't judge that properly. What I can judge is the suggest trajectory should have deafened people below and taken out at least a couple of streetlights. I mean, people go as far as to indicate that it wasn't a coincidence that section was being renovated at the time. I don't necessarily see a connection there, but I do find it odd for a rookie pilot to go around the building instead of just aiming at the center.

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Not the lorry on the right which presumably withstood the right hand wing of the craft.

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Here's the inside. The nose made it that far in and punched through this fairly solid looking brick wall. Then it disintegrated? Of course, see the mark on the right, this is post initial cleanup, but surely there must have been some left before?

Just from a generic perspective, if this would happen in most places in the world, most would call foul play - warranted or not. I find it somehow amusing who anybody who has their doubts is considered a 'conspiracy theorist'. After all, the official narrative is that there was a conspiracy between bunch of guys who then set out to hijack aircraft with knives and attack the most powerful nation on earth. That's just as much a conspiracy theory as would be the notion that certain rogue elements in government or 'bad actors' wanted to start a war. Cui bono?
Do you really think that bottom pic is the inside of the pentagon? I mean really? Look at it some more.
 

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Do you really think that bottom pic is the inside of the pentagon? I mean really? Look at it some more.

Well, I agree that it looks pretty odd, but it's the official narrative:

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That's another angle of the same thing that the BBC released. The Same BBC who announced the collapse of the towers an hour early. Is that the kind of 'precise' damage I would expect from a massive plane which has presumably almost disintegrated while chugging through the outer sections of the building? No.

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That's the official 'path' the craft took, creating the "punch out hole" marked at the top. And here's the accompanying pic.

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(source: https://www.history.navy.mil/resear...alphabetically/p/pentagon-9-11-footnotes.html)
 

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No wing damage?
Those wings are securely fastened to the fuselage and i think also hold the furl tanks
No brick damage where wings were attached makes zero sense
 

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I'm already getting deeper into this than I intended but how can the notion of over populating our planet be crazy talk @Crikey ?
Purportedly, as a reference, the entire worlds population could fit onto alaska and have X amount of space

God said” Be fruitful and multiply”
Funny how those who preach fear porn of over poulation always want to die last
Overpopulation is a real problem, the crazy talk part comes in how some people want to deal with it. And by "some people," I'm not talking about the average Joe on the street, I'm talking about the billionaires who have decided that it is up to them to play God with the rest of us.
right on.
The former Georgia guidestones listed 500 million as what they wanted the population to be… thats a lot of culling to get to that nuMber
 
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