The vaccine

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  1. mickeydg5

    mickeydg5 Well-Known Member

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    Oh yeah I almost forgot, fuuck this vaccine and all who think it will save humanity.
     
  2. Vinsanitizer

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    SAVE THE WHALE! :yesway:
     
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    Guys, have the vaccine. You won't grow another head.

    But if it does affect your nervous system and you start shaking, think of the benefits of natural vibrato. Bit like the day after a big booze up
     
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    A couple points guys....

    I) Get the vaccine. I was originally a bio major before I switched over to business, and my ex majored in chemistry and biochemistry, and we were both nerds and talked about the subjects endlessly. Here's the basics of the two designs. The difference is in the "vector," or the mechanism used to get the "blueprints" for whatever you want the body to have an immune response to into the cells.
    • The mRNA vaccines (Pfizer, Moderna) - your cells produce the proteins that your body uses to build tissue. There are essentially factories within your cells. mRNA, aka Messenger RNA, is a blueprint that tells a cell what kind of proteins to build. It is released into your bloodstream by cells in your own body to signal other cells to build something. The mRNA vaccines use a bit of lab-made mRNA blueprints to tell your cells to build the spike protein from the virus. That's it. They're building one little protein chain. And once that mRNA's instructions have been carried out the mRNA proteins are discarded and your cell pumps out the collection of little spikes it built. It's not changing your DNA - unlike binge drinking, and I'm pretty sure at least some people reading this have done that in past week. Your body doesn't recognize the little spike protein chains that are cranked out and so it develops antibodies against them and learns to attack them. Ergo, if it sees them again it will attack the protein, and therefore whatever it is attached to.
    • The adenovirus vaccines (Johnson & Johnson, AstraZeneca) - these use a harmless human virus called an adenovirus to deliver the instructions on how to build the protein. Rather than release mRNA molecules into your body, it delivers an adenovirus that has no self-replication instructions. Typically, a virus infects a cell and then gives the cell instructions on how to make copies of the virus. Instead, this adenovirus has been modified to deliver instructions on how to make the spike protein. The end result is the same. The cells that the adenovirus infects don't crank out adenoviruses - they crank out copies of the spike protein and your body recognizes it as a foreign substance, etc. etc. This technology has been used before in other vaccines that are approved. Once again it doesn't change your DNA, see the comment about binge drinking.
    As for the "other" components in vaccines. These can be a delivery solution or what is called an adjuvant. The solution is an inert (nonreactive) liquid like salt water. The adjuvant is a material that is basically an irritant and causes your body to generate a stronger immune response. Some of these things have long names because they are big molecules. Look at the ingredients in food preservatives, flavorings, colorings, etc. During the course of a vaccination you are getting maybe 2 - 3 milliliters of fluid injected into your tissue. The amount of the adjuvants are far, far too small to become dangerous. See related comments about binge drinking above.

    II) Whining about capitalism

    Those who complain about capitalism on the Internet talk mad smack for someone typing from a personal computer or cell phone.
     
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    The vaccine contains Aids.
     
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    Oooooof!

    I better call dah COPS
     
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    No. The vaccine is the devil's blood.
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    If it can contain Aids, then it should contain the virus, right? .. no wait..
     
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    I will definitely get the vaccine when available here. There is no reason not to.

    Until then, Im watching to see how the various versions perform and whether any further differences emerge.
     
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    Well, I mean for the purpose of public distribution and stuff.
     
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    What you want is immunization from COVID-19.
    What you will get is Aids.
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    We love you, even though you are a crazy-man!
     
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    ‘vacca’ means cow in Italian.
    Thats all you need to know about vaccines.
     
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    I like where you're goin' with that. :yesway:
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    Thats a shame, 'cos I've got no more interest in this thread. :cheers:

    Planet Earth make way for the covid immune machine!
    Premature celebration?
     
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    No, not all the vaccines. There is a wide range of different approaches to vaccine development. The one you incorrectly refer to as having the aids virus was being developed in Australia contained part of a HIV protein, fragment of the whole virus, not the HIV virus.

    They knew false positives in HIV testing was a risk for people who trialed with this vaccine which is why they monitored it. False positives were occurring so the vaccine has been dumped despite promising results against covid. The technology is being worked on as it is believed it will be beneficial in the future.

    https://www.livescience.com/australia-covid-19-vaccine-false-positive-hiv-tests.html
     
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    Vax is a cleaning machine, if we're on the subject of talking complete bollocks.
    :duel: Or was that Bullocks?
     
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