The Official Marshall Studio Vintage Thread Sv20h

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  1. Steph#67

    Steph#67 Member

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    Just another silly question ... sweet spot is around 4 or 5 on this amp right? Even in 5 watts mode?
     
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    TXOldRedRocker Senior Discount Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Crunch at low volumes just as @tce63 indicated above.
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    Bienvenue et félicitations, super ampli ! (pardon my french...*ahem*)
    The nature of the beast is, as a NMV amp, it requires some volume to get some crunch/breakup. Even with a LP (one of my 2 main guitars is a '13 Les Paul Traditional), it takes bringing up the High Treble volume a bit. Even the 5W mode gets loud pretty fast. Monster amp, but it is by essence a live/studio amp.
    So yeah, either get an attenuator, or dial in a good clean-ish tone and push it with a pedal (pretty much any overdrive pedal will get you there).
    The Weber can be purchased from a couple of retailers in the EU.
    Also, to me the sweet spot is with both volumes at 7-ish (which is AC/DC-ish amounts of saturation), depends on what kind of tone you're shooting for though.
     
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    Sorry didn't read all posts before posting. Deleted. :)
     
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  5. tce63

    tce63 Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Yes some where between 3-6 :)

    I run my amp jumped around 6-7 at both volumes
     
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  6. Steph#67

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    Understood!
    Many thanks for your feedback!
    Today I play the amp on 20W mode.
    Guitar plug on high normal channel
    Bridge between low hih and low normal
    Normal volume around 9 o'clock
    high volume around 8 o'clock
    I cut the treeble at 3 or 4
    Middle on 7
    Bass on 9
    Presence 7

    Playing with the guitar volume I can reach nice tones at reasonable volume but it still misses "something" ;)
    Anything I could do better?
    I prefer this way than cutting the amp in 5W mode and incresing high and normal volume ...
     
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    Sounds like you are using the combo. Do you have a 2x12 or 4x12 you can plug into?
    That will make a world of difference.
     
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  8. Steph#67

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    Looks like it's difficult to find this attenuator in France ... :/
    Any other one you could advise?

    Thank you very much in advance!
     
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    Yes it's the combo ...
    What is a 2/4 x 12 ... Sorry for asking but I've deconnected from music gear for quiet a while :/
     
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    tce63 Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    I can´t find anyone in EU at the moment.

    But you can order directly from TedWeber

    https://tedweber.com/minimass/
     
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    One low cost solution i found that works quite well, even if not optimal, is to place a low gain, reasonably flat OD in the loop. The drive at or near zero, use volume as a master volume.
    .. I've got a 30€ harley benton ultimate drive ( ocd clone)... be careful with the gain though, its too easy seting it too high and it all turns unrealistic....
    ... this said i prefere an attenuator and typically use my old pb100
    J
     
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  12. Steph#67

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    Your French looks good :)
    I forgot to mention I use an OD808 :)
    So I do get nice cleans and though I love my pedal I fail to reach the crunch I expect from the amp .... which I knew was a beast ...
     
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    Before Covid a couple of EU retailers carried them, sadly none seem to stock them at the moment...
    Also, there doesn't seem to be any comparable solutions in that price range, so your best bet might be to actually order one direct from Weber:
    https://tedweber.com/minimass/

    I'm french (living near Marseille), so there's that ;)
    How do you set the OD808 ? And what tones exactly are you aiming at ? Contrary to many, I actually like the TS as a stand-alone OD, not only as a boost, so I'd advise to try turning up the gain pot on the pedal, even though many will tell you "you have to use a TS with gain at zero and level at 10".
     
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    2x12 is a cabinet with two 12" speakers.
    4x12 is a cabinet with four 12" speakers.
    Usually they would be used with just a head but you can connect combos to them as well.
     
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    My combo gets pretty good gain tones with just a vol pedal in the loop, YMMV
     
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  16. Steph#67

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    I was born in TOulon and spent 40 years there before finding love in Grenoble :)
    I like slightly dirty tones such as the ones Page gets on many Led Zep songs ...
    Regarding my OD pedal, I mostly play with gain and tone, boost being kept very low, almost at zero ... I just want the extra boost to get past the sweet spot ... this little dirt I love ...
    Do you see what I mean?
     
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    With my former (Queen tribute) band we gigged a lot in the Toulon/Hyères area in the past three years (up to the pandemic, that is), lots of lovely places there. I'm not too crazy about the coastline itself tbh, it's been totally obliterated with buildings and concrete, which is a shame. But as soon as you move inland, it's really beautiful.
    And the Grenoble area is amazing, I spent almost all my holidays in the Alps and Savoie as a kid, and loved it.

    As for tones, for Page you don't need much saturation, so it should be pretty easy to get there, even dialing the amp for cleans and using a pedal for saturation. Page's tones are pretty clean by today's standards. If you need just a tad more than the OD808 offers, maybe try something like the Guvnor, or the Marvell Drive (I have a clone sitting on top of my amp next to me).
    To get there with the amp by itself, sadly, there's no way around playing it loud, the SV being a NMV design. Nature of the beast...
    I can't really comment on bedroom volumes, as I either use the SV at gigging volume (loud enough to compete with a drummer), or loaded down with a Two Notes Captor and going through IRs for cab sim. Which are both scenarios where the SV shines imho.
     
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    I sometimes bunkerize the house when I'm alone and push it ...
    I just love this amp!!!!
     
  19. G the wildman

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    I am going to play through my monitors out of the DI on my SV.

    To silence the SV cab I will turn the volume off via my attenuator. Basically set it to zero volume.

    Will I damage anything on my amp doing this?
     
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    No, not as long as the amp sees the (approximately) matching load. Should be the case for most attenuators. If you want to be sure, you can measure it with a multimeter.
    The attenuator load resistance will have to work hard and get very warm. But mostly they are sufficiently dimensioned.
     

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