The Official Marshall Studio Classic Thread Sc20

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  1. solarburnDSL50

    solarburnDSL50 Well-Known Member Platinum Supporting Member

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    I would definitely try that cab. Could be awesome!
     
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    The v1 jj is pretty high gain, a groove tube r1 long plate I have in the vintage modern smoother top end
     
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    V30 little Brighter? Orange 112 might be good
     
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    The Orange cab is as 3d as I've ever had. No harshness at all. Mind blowing.

    The EVH with GB's? Never heard GB'S go thunderous heavy. GB's have no business hitting tight lows as this cab will do any music including heavy modern.

    The Orange is a fire breather!
     
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    Try it out. I'm not into 112's but Orange cabs rock.
     
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    I want to play loud my SC combo cab works really good but a closed back should be better for the higher gain side
     
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    The vintage modern is voiced more for the greenback for modern and vintage tones
     
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    Oh I see. Fuck yeah. Get it!:eddie:
     
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    scozz Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    I’ve never done it with my SC20, I’ve done it on other amps, 5751’s and 12at7’s. Give it a try, you’re talking about V1 right?
     
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    I was, but I'm second guessing myself.
    I'm guessing p3 is the phase inverter, I'm reading some interesting stuff about that opening up more with different tubes, not with the SC20 perse, but with all amps. When I'm Highway to helling it or hells belling it I'm mostly using MV at 6 or 7 and preamp down around 1 or so.
    So thinking maybe a different Pi tube will help. So confusing, just buy a few different tubes and try em I guess....
     
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    Wow, you’re running that preamp really low, it’s not thin sounding in any way? I’ve never tried it that low for any period of time, I’m gonna check it out. :)

    Do you crank the presence any to fill it out a bit,… (maybe I should just ask what do you have the presence set at? :D)
     
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    Usually have my presence and treble low playing with higher gain, put presence up around 5 or 6 on Saturday I think playing with low gain.even put the treble up around 4 or so.
     
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    I just played my SC20h with my band at practice for the first time. I couldn't get the MV past like 1.5 as it was just too loud. It sounded thin and now thump with the effect loop turned on. I was disapointed. I recall when i had my 82 2204 combo it didn't have much low end at low volumes either. I recall a few years back I played a 2203x at G.C & was surprised at how much low end it had and it was only $1300. I should have bought it then now they are almost $2000 if you can find them. Not sure what to do with the SC20h in my band. Not enought low end.
     
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    1.5 on the volume isn't very loud (IMO). You could try an EQ in the loop, boosting around 125 Hz. This may, or may not be enough to get you where you need to be. Boosting lows on a small amp will only go so far, as there are other factors involved (more headroom in a 100w power amp, larger transformers...).
     
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    1.5 for your band practice? I have it at like 2 in my living room lol.

    EDIT: nope I was way wrong. I’m on 1 in my living room haha.
     
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    I really do not understand what's going on here at all!?

    The amps master volume is on 1.5 and it's too loud to play in your band? :facepalm:

    I can play mine on 2, (20 watt mode), sitting right in front of it, in a 13x14 room!

    Something is not right here,...
     
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    shiiit im at 7:) with a combo though. Have to try my new 212 cab
     
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    :lol:

    Virgin ears? Won't be for long owning a Marshall. Better he/she breaks those ears in gently.

    Me? Yer playing a 100 watt humping a 412. For education.
     
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    That's surprising, I would think MV on 1.5 would not be loud enough if you have a drummer. Are you in a Rock band, or maybe something else? Or maybe you are rehearsing in a room that is too small?

    A few things you can try:
    • make sure you are on the 20W mode (maybe you were on 5W by accident?)
    • play through a big enough cab (at least 2x12 Closed Back)
    • make sure cab is placed directly on the floor
    • amp is less thin with Gain knob at full (depends on tone you're after)
    • you can try a volume pot (or pedal) in the loop - only to cut a small amount of signal level to power amp, allowing you to turn MV higher
    • * I used a DOD 250 pedal in front of my SC20H as boost (Gain at MIN, Level at MAX). This added A LOT of low end to the amp, in a good way. Even at reasonable volume, my wife wondered why things were rattling upstairs. Palm mutes sounded killer, even in standard tuning.
     
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    As of now with new speakers the vintage modern smokes the SC more beef,dynamics overall sound. Now the SC should sound better as the speakers loosen up but VM has 2 knobs that work like a 4 hole plexi for more body and high end with a JTM engine.

    Only had it around 10 o clock the VM. I tried the SC for a sec at 20 watts. Great amp grab one while you can. The SC with the 10" works great with the smaller speaker less wattage amp going into a 50 watt speaker. Now filling a 212 you need more horse power to fill it out IMO.
     
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