The Official Marshall Studio Classic Thread Sc20

[nkay]

@LCW How do you like the v30 mixed with the V type? I’m torn on the V type, they sound closer to greenbacks and more traditional with a hint of modern in them. But they don’t have the bass the v30 has for the heavier music. So I might try the mix or two v30s. For the SC212 they are 16 ohm speakers right? (To get the 8 ohm out, is that how it works?)

 

[solarburn]

Usually I'm not a V30 fan but I love them in my Orange 412. I think cab can be a game changer.

 

[ken361]

Usually I'm not a V30 fan but I love them in my Orange 412. I think cab can be a game changer.

I see a lot of new cabs with v30 wish they would use creambacks more or a greenback 212's. kind of looking for a 112 for the vintage modern but most say the greens are best over the v30.
I see GC has orange 112 v30 and a PRS 112 v30 or also. Have a warehouse ET65 not sure how it sounds with the VM I used it with the dsl40.

 

[solarburn]

I see a lot of new cabs with v30 wish they would use creambacks more or a greenback 212's. kind of looking for a 112 for the vintage modern but most say the greens are best over the v30.
I see GC has orange 112 v30 and a PRS 112 v30 or also. Have a warehouse ET65 not sure how it sounds with the VM I used it with the dsl40.

Never tried the 112 Orange. The 412 is rediculous. So is the price!

 

[solarburn]

I see a lot of new cabs with v30 wish they would use creambacks more or a greenback 212's. kind of looking for a 112 for the vintage modern but most say the greens are best over the v30.
I see GC has orange 112 v30 and a PRS 112 v30 or also. Have a warehouse ET65 not sure how it sounds with the VM I used it with the dsl40.

Also my ears don't like Creambacks. Too smooth or laid back for me. Course everyone else likes em so I'm a minority. I need my Marshall rude. In yo face!

 

[ken361]

Friedman JJ jr cab has a creamback but looks so small

 

[nkay]

I liked the Creamback 65 watt, but it sounded a little restrained. As people say it’s sits between a Greenback and v30 but doesn’t have the charm of either depending on your application. That’s the problem with speakers, it’s just like pickups, you’ll rarely found one that can do everything without sacrificing some characteristic.

 

[LCW]

@LCW How do you like the v30 mixed with the V type? I’m torn on the V type, they sound closer to greenbacks and more traditional with a hint of modern in them. But they don’t have the bass the v30 has for the heavier music. So I might try the mix or two v30s. For the SC212 they are 16 ohm speakers right? (To get the 8 ohm out, is that how it works?)

I really like the V-Type/V30 combo. The V-Types are excellent speakers and very balanced. To me they are like a cross between a Creamback and V30.

I wanted a bit more bite and agression so swapped in a V30 and that made it perfect for my taste (old school thrash).

The V-Type balances out the V30 nicely. Doesn’t sound harsh at all but definitely more in-your-face that the stock two V-Types.

 

[ken361]

Vtype is similar to the greens in a way least the 10's are

 

[GregM]

Sorry to be a pain, has anyone lowered the gain on their SC20....
Sacreligous I know, but thinking of putting some 5751 's in.
Anyone done this before?

 

[LCW]

Sorry to be a pain, has anyone lowered the gain on their SC20....
Sacreligous I know, but thinking of putting some 5751 's in.
Anyone done this before?

Blasphemous! Perhaps you should get a Fender lol!!!

 

[GregM]

Blasphemous! Perhaps you should get a Fender lol!!!

I know, I know.
But the heart wants what the heart wants!

 

[GregM]

I should probably say, some stuff I love with the gain on 7 or so, so that leaves me wriggle room no?
A 70% tube leaves me wriggle room to get more low gain crunch, and still get the flavour we all love, or so I'd think

 

[ken361]

I should probably say, some stuff I love with the gain on 7 or so, so that leaves me wriggle room no?
A 70% tube leaves me wriggle room to get more low gain crunch, and still get the flavour we all love, or so I'd think

boost in the low input is really nice

 

[GregM]

boost in the low input is really nice

Yup, been there and I do like it. But it lacks a little bite to my ears, the high gain seems to have more than enough bite.
But maybe because I put only 1 or 2 gain on the pedal. Something to explore.
I just find when I'm muting ( ie the intro /verse on highway to hell) it sounds Friggin awesome, when I get to the chorus and stop muting, the d to g to d gets kinda lost if that makes sense.
I know it's not played on a 800, but still...

 

[solarburn]

Sorry to be a pain, has anyone lowered the gain on their SC20....
Sacreligous I know, but thinking of putting some 5751 's in.
Anyone done this before?

I roll guitar off for milder stuff. What I love about this amp. I can leave it at hard rock saturation and roll off all the way to clean.

Grant it I have master at 3pm 20 watts ALWAYS!

 

[ken361]

Never tried the 112 Orange. The 412 is rediculous. So is the price!

How is it against a greenback if you have one

 

[solarburn]

I know, I know.
But the heart wants what the heart wants!

Bud Fuck 5751's.

Try a 12AY7. You'll have your answer one way or the other.

I know guys are going to hate me but putting a weaker 12AX7 sounds minimal. Go for it. So you have a grasp on the difference and tone characteristics.

 

[ken361]

Also my ears don't like Creambacks. Too smooth or laid back for me. Course everyone else likes em so I'm a minority. I need my Marshall rude. In yo face!

Peavey 212 with greenbacks local store has one might be a good bet.

 

[solarburn]

How is it against a greenback if you have one

I've got the EVH 412 with GB's. Best cab I've ever had until I got the Orange. Both are Fucking rediculous. Worth the attention.