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I come from using a JVM so never had to think about attenuation.
It looks like a volume pedal in the loop won’t do anything to get the power tubes cooking if I understand correctly.
When it comes to attenuation, there's little difference between a JVM and the SC20. Both are master volume amps and get most of their overdrive from the preamp. Yes, you could put an attenuator on a master volume amp, and turn the master up higher, but IMO, due to the design of the amp(s), the difference isn't worth the added expense and lugging around an attenuator.
 
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Just picked up an SC20 combo.
Loving it so far.
Can get almost as many various tones as I could with my JVM.

Do you think I’ll benefit at all with an attenuator?
Or just a volume pedal in the loop.
Would love to hear anyone’s thoughts on this.

thanks!

I have a Two Notes Captor X on mine and it doesn't change the amp's tone to a cabinet at all really.. So you can crank everything and play it at a whisper. AND, you can also run your tube amp into a computer and play it into the HUNDREDS of different virtual cabinets Two Notes offers, which is unreal... Marshall, Victory, Orange, Vox...
 

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I have a Two Notes Captor X on mine and it doesn't change the amp's tone to a cabinet at all really.. So you can crank everything and play it at a whisper. AND, you can also run your tube amp into a computer and play it into the HUNDREDS of different virtual cabinets Two Notes offers, which is unreal... Marshall, Victory, Orange, Vox...

is the Two Notes torpedo just as good? With a few less features?
 

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is the Two Notes torpedo just as good? With a few less features?

The Torpedo does not have different levels of attenuation. It only offers -20db, which is still pretty good. The Captor X has switch where you can choose Full Volume, -20db, or -38db. The -38db makes it super quiet... But again, you don't lose any tone. I bought one of those Bugera things and it sounded like someone was holding a pillow in front of the speaker... With the Two Notes you lose NOTHING tone-wise. Same exact sound, just quieter. It's actually pretty amazing technology....
 

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Welcome to the Marshall Forum @mrichard27, and HNAD!

Glad you’re liking your new amp, I agree about the amp being versatile, more than most people realize, I think.

There’s so many great tones just by using the master and preamp volumes, they’re very sensitive and precise and interact extremely well with each other.

As far as attenuators go, they’re the best way to get good tones at lower volumes imo, and there’s plenty of choices.

And options too, as stated earlier, some do much more than just attenuate.

It’s probably best to first figure out what exactly you want and need and how much you’re willing to pay for it.

I only wanted a good attenuator but I didn’t want to spend a lot of money.

I bought a Weber Minimass 50 watt attenuator, att it was $135, now they’re around $200 I think. It does the job and it sounds good to me. :cool:
 
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I have another dumb question .
I have the combo and the speaker is in the 16 ohm input.
If I hook up another 16 ohm cabinet ; do I hook both the internal speaker and the extra cab into the two 8 ohm inputs ?
Or can I leave the internal speaker hooked up in the 16 and the extension cab into the 8 ?

thanks
 

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I have another dumb question .
I have the combo and the speaker is in the 16 ohm input.
If I hook up another 16 ohm cabinet ; do I hook both the internal speaker and the extra cab into the two 8 ohm inputs ?
Or can I leave the internal speaker hooked up in the 16 and the extension cab into the 8 ?
thanks

No you would not, but I understand why you'd think that. Look at the actual rating of both loads (the internal speaker at 16 ohms and the external cab at 16 ohms), then just let exactly what's printed at the amp's jacks guide you.

You would plug both the internal 16 ohm speaker and the external 16 ohm cabinet into the 2x16 ohm jacks. When both jacks are simultaneously in use they will automatically run in parallel, creating the proper load internal to the amp. Needless to say when doing so you'll just need to move the factory speaker cable over to the 2x16 pair but don't forget to move it back when the external cab is not in use:

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No you would not, but I understand why you'd think that. Look at the actual rating of both loads (the internal speaker at 16 ohms and the external cab at 16 ohms), then just let exactly what's printed at the amp's jacks guide you.

You would plug both the internal 16 ohm speaker and the external 16 ohm cabinet into the 2x16 ohm jacks. When both jacks are simultaneously in use they will automatically run in parallel, creating the proper load internal to the amp. Needless to say when doing so you'll just need to move the factory speaker cable over to the 2x16 pair but don't forget to move it back when the external cab is not in use:

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Thanks so much for that.
Now I understand much better.
Appreciate your time and knowledge .
 

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So here's my little stealth monster. It was a premium price when I got it, but now the regular SC20 is the same price so I don't feel as bad. Definitely miss a bit of the depth you get from the 100 watt 2203X, but the sound is very close and I can crank it higher at home and get closer to the sweet spot. The loop behavior is annoying but I can live with it. It does drop less at higher volumes.

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So here's my little stealth monster. It was a premium price when I got it, but now the regular SC20 is the same price so I don't feel as bad. Definitely miss a bit of the depth you get from the 100 watt 2203X, but the sound is very close and I can crank it higher at home and get closer to the sweet spot. The loop behavior is annoying but I can live with it. It does drop less at higher volumes.

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You want more reamp it.

Looks good!

20 watters are foreplay. A little tickle.
 

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HNAD, @nkay ! I really like the looks of the front panel on those stealth models, very cool indeed! For me, I think a white logo would really finish it off, but still very cool.

Good luck finding the matching rug, though....

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Hnad!
Killer little beasts!
So you got the matching cab?
Looks very evil!

Yeah I didn’t quite need the matching
cab as I have a dark grey ISP 1x12 it sits on perfectly, but my retailer had it in stock and figured with the rareness of it I should have the matching set. Not completely sold on the V type speakers, but they are a good all-around speaker for this amp.
 

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You want more reamp it.

Looks good!

20 watters are foreplay. A little tickle.

It’s pretty darn loud on its own! Never tried it in a band setting to see how it holds up. You get a good bass response with it already, the 100 watts just adds that extra body and depth to it from when I compared my 2203x directly to it in the room. Mic’d up they are close sounding, the only differences being those related to the wattage.
 

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HNAD, @nkay ! I really like the looks of the front panel on those stealth models, very cool indeed! For me, I think a white logo would really finish it off, but still very cool.

Good luck finding the matching rug, though....

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haha, yeah it’s temporarily in my home office, but usually it lives in the unfinished basement on a black rug :applause:
The front panel is great for contrast, I used to have the mini-Jubilee before this and I couldn’t see the panel at all.
 


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