AND THE RESULTS!
So the short and sweet answer is;
Now for a bit more info;
Run through the Avatar 2x12 W/Vintage 30's, EQ dialed fairly wild to get a "vintage" style tone - resonance OFF, Bass 3, Mids 10, Treble 4, Presence OFF.
Now... lets talk about what happened here, because I think there is some really interesting stuff going on.
75% of you or so guessed wrong, which tells me that I am correct; while there is certainly a "Marshall Sound", nailing down a specific sound to a certain amp is much, much harder. The EQ has as much to do with the sound as anything. Some models are geared for more treble or bass - but with enough EQ yo find the vintage tones are in there. While it is noted that the 2ns largest guessing block was the DSL, I think a fair number of those guessers looked at my previous posts and/or pictures and made that guess.
now some have commented on the "loose" low end, and I find that quite strange; Vintage 30's, bass at 3, resonance OFF... I find it hard to believe the bass could be that loose at those settings, and wonder if it isn't the EQ and/or medium in which some people listened to the audio with. Further, there is something to be said for EXACT reproductive audio; so many people are used to studio style audio where the EQ is tailored, then the track is normalized, then the whole production is EQ'd and then the thing is mastered. I think many folks would be in for a shock if they heard their favorite stars live tone on stage as compared to the "on the record" tone.
Several people were convinced EL84's were involved - that's interesting to me at least.
Feel free to discuss the track; good, bad, indifferent, things that surprised you, things that strike you s different now that you know what the amp is, etc etc - I'm very keen to hear your thoughts, and I know I've certainly learned some interesting things.
My TSL - also a JCM2000 - kind of a generic term for a few amps - is one of mine. The Crunch channel has far more balls than the DSL and can go from reasonably cleanish to flat out old school metal with lowering guitar volume just on that channel alone. The Gain control on Clean channel is a nice addition as well. Easy to set tones and can sound pretty much like anything you want.
The nice thing is I could take it from the example OP posted by setting similar EQ on Crunch channel and still have a soaring lead channel PLUS clean. They've had some PCB problems but a fantastic sounding amp!
I find my 122 to sound piles better than my buddy's 602. We play side by each and the 122 really kills it. No footswitch problem with mine either.I had a JCM-2000 TSL 60 2x12 for a while. Yes it was a great amp too. It didn't have a bias drift issue and I fixed the lousy foot switch with s handful of Radio Shack
switch buttons and some washers to make up for the difference in the hole size of the pedal housing. Not a thing wrong with the tone of that amp. Even the Wolverine speakers sounded great to me. Only reason I let it go is it was heavy as hell and I piled up a shit ton of Marshall tube amps. I'd gladly rock a TSL 100 head. Should probably get another one day before a handful of people talk them up and drive the prices up.
It IS interesting. Seems to me that by changing EQ one can get a more vintage sound to a modern amp.
My TSL isn't really a distinctive sounding Marshall to my ears
Now I just have to figure out how to accomplish that with my TSL!!
Perhaps that more generic Marshall tone would enable it to emulate other amps better than would be the case if it had a very distinct tone of its own?
I agree as a place to start with TSL. Because of the "extra" channel, I find it voiced between Channel 1 Crunch and channel 2 Lead1 on DSL. Seems like a great start!!
The DSL is a very good amp but I play metal and that setting isn't anything I would ever really use and for me the JCM 900 Reissue is the sweet spot for Thrash Metal tones. That said I think the DSL is a great Thrash metal amp in it's own right . I just wish they still made them in the England factory .
Got it straight away admittedly after the event but having once owned a jcm 2000 100w head if was pretty obvious . Couldn't get a decent tone out of it for love nor money , no dynamics whatsoever .