Super-Vee Double-Locking Tremolo System: Any Experience?

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  1. Gianni

    Gianni Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys,

    I am considering this for an American Fender Stratocaster, as it can be installed without making any irreversible changes to the guitar. (Super-Vee | BladeRunner | Fender Stratocaster | Tremolo Bar)

    I’ve watched every video and read all I could find about it online, and it appears to be at least as good as an original Floyd Rose system, but have unfortunately not been able to find a guitar with it to play where I live.

    If you’ve had any experience with it, could you please help me with ANY of the following questions?

    1. Are you happy with tuning stability and tone?
    2. Are the fine-tuners ‘fine’ enough?
    3. Can it ‘dive’ as smoothly, and as low, as a Floyd Rose bridge?
    4. Is the space between the saddles and fine-tuners enough for comfortable palm-muting?
    5. Did you run into any difficulties during installation, and do you have any related tips as a result?
    6. Is the procedure for setting it up to float the same as with a Fender bridge?


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    I've never seen these before but that looks sexy as hell! :)
     
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    Man, that really looks promising..i never heard of it, but I like it..Alot..!!!

    Now they need to make one with the 2 blade post just like the Floyd, for newer Fenders...but man this is nice from what I can see..and with Floyds, you gotta raise the whole unit for string height..with the Fender Bridges, they have the individual saddle adjustment..which I love..so with this locking trem. you got the best of both worlds right there..man it's nice..if it's everything they claim it to be, look out..it seems to blow away that new Floyd Rose trem for our Gibbys..with those you gotta drill 2 holes just above the nut..and to me,that's not cool...but, anyways for a Fender no mod unit..it looks incredible..glue the new nut in place and your set.
     
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    blues_n_cues Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    they do (w/ 2 post adapter set) $12.95-
    https://www.super-vee.com/order/

    holy hannah!!! $399. um,nope.
     
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    Exactly; talked myself right out of it
     
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    Much sexier and more functional than the 2nd-generation one, as you now have access to the truss rod without removing the nut, just the string-locking part. :yesway:


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    blues_n_cues Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    ditto. I was gonna consider spiffing up my old Squire or the Yammyhaw $50 CL find but naw.... it may hve to be a Korean Floyd after all.
     
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    There you are! :thumb:


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    There’s a cheaper option - the BladeRunner - if you don’t really need a locking nut, which seems to work quite well. :yesway:

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    Drop-D tuning without a D-Tuna! :hbang: (at 0:35)
    (If the bridge is set up to not float)

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    Hey, maybe I don’t need a locking nut either! :hmm:

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-i_a3U2oPY]Super-Vee Bladrunner Bridge/Tremolo Demo - Tuning stability - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Looks like a very well engineered/built piece of equipment....

    Just a side note on the locking nut situation that seems to be an issue for a lot of guitarist, I used to have an SG-X with a Khaler trem, didn't have a locking nut, but had locking tuners, never had a "going out of tune" issue..

    GIbson made a couple versions of this, one was a flying-V..... with!!!! TRIBAL TATTOOS on it!!!! Who the hell would ever play/buy/be seen with such hideous symbolic designs on it!!!!
     
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    I want a super vee. I played one a while back. Really good trem, vintage feel but stays in tune. The locking nut is way better than the traditional Floyd style, in my opinion.
     
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    I own one, it's got a different feel from a Floyd but works just as well. Cool thing is you can use it with a Floyd nut if need be.
     
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    I just like the fine tuners, i dont do dive bombs and vibrato with the bar but i do like tuning to chords and fine tuners are sweet for that. I also like the sound from a big heavy tremolo like a floyd or a vintage fender bridge with the big heavy block.

    I dont see how the nut lock thing works.

    The whole idea behind the floyd lock is to prevent the strings from unwinding at the tuners

    No modifications? that nut looked like a pretty tricky modification to me. err wait i see how it works now.
     
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    I kinda like this better on Strats...
     
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    Thanks a lot for your response, AlHayesMusic! Having just had a look at your forum profile, I cannot but take your word that we should both buy one. :thumb:
     
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    At last, a fellow member who owns one! Thank you very much for your response, S.A.T.O.! :thumb:

    I presume your saying that the Super-Vee “works just as well” as a Floyd Rose basically ‘covers’ all questions in my original post.
     
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    I do like the Floyd Rose system myself, but only Mexican Strats have it, while I wouldn’t want to have an American Strat modified to accommodate one, which is why I searched for an alternative tremolo system in the first place, and found the Super-Vee.

    Replacing the nut is, as you saw yourself in the video, very easy to do, and can hardly be considered a major or irreversible modification. The important thing for me is that no routing is required for the Super-Vee bridge to be installed. :yesway:
     
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