Sometimes you get lucky(1984 jcm800 A cab)

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  1. pulsonicsound

    pulsonicsound Well-Known Member

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    I’ve been after a quad of early G12T-75s with the vent for a while as I’ve heard they are nigh on identical to g12-65s and wanted to hear for myself

    so I picked up this 1984 slant for a decent price, the only catch was the godawful grill material, not a biggie as the speakers were what I’m after and it’s easy enough to change.

    decided to open her up and put on some period correct grill this evening when lo and behold they’d left the original stuff underneath the blue velvet!
    Made my day!

    The cab is also as old as me(cue jokes that it’s in better nick etc etc)



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    blue velvet was cooler
     
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    pulsonicsound Well-Known Member

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    It was a little too hair metal for me!!
     
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    Like taking a blanket off the speakers!

    What do they sound like?
     
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    Get a new logo?
     
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    @neikeel
    It was literally like taking a blanket off, not had a chance to compare them yet as the other half is working from home(not sure she’d appreciate 1 hour of loud guitar!)I have a ‘81 out at the moment as a cab to noodle through, it’s loaded with g12-65s so going to spend some time flipping between the two!

    @junk notes
    I’ll leave the logo on, I don’t mind partial logos on my cabs, the worst one I have is literally just parts of the letters that have the pins!
     
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    Good score and waiting for the comparison...
     
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    Waiting on the comparison.
     
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    I have that same cab, my speakers are may of '84. Very cool sounding and rock solid cab, congrats!
     
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    Cheers @mixn4him

    I love me a battered old Marshall cab

    finally getting around to playing them tomorrow
    @GIBSON67 @axe arsenal
    I’ll post my thoughts without too much hyperbole!
     
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    this is a marshall forum not a marsnall forum :agreed::applause::band::D:drool::fever::iough::io::nutkick::rofl:
     
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    pulsonicsound Well-Known Member

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    could be worse, ala Billy Corgan, I've always liked his guitar sound, if the cab is the same year as his head(1984) its probably g12-65s or g12-70s, it'd be funny if it was the 70s!

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    I have an '84 cab, a '89 cab and 2 from '86.
    Both the '86 cabs are the best sounding to me.
    I preferred these over the '78 cab with blackbacks in it.
    As a whole I can say the eighties cabs I have sound completely different than the 3 later ones I have (all with G12T-75's). It's almost like I put the guitar through an equalizer...
     
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    what I love about trying out lots of the same thing(ie slants) at the same point in time is you really hear the differences

    not to mention that Celestion were notorious for changing the spec of the speaker during its lifetime without changing the T number!

    still not had a chance to compare my ‘84 with the ‘81, it’s been that kind of week...
     
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    So finally had a chance to compare the ‘84 with the vented ‘75s, to a ‘82 cab with the lead coned ‘65s

    same cab(1960A), same construction/grill cloth, I used a US spec 1978 mk2 superlead and went back back and forth between both cabs a few times.

    While similar sounding they are a different speaker, not as close as some people make out!

    The 75’s had more high frequencies and were a brighter speaker, the 65’s have more mid range grunt with a sparkle/sizzle on top.

    if I had to pick one I’d go for the g12-65s it just sounded a little more alive!



    Obviously the life that the speaker has had will influence the sound somewhat; both cabs have a similar amount of wear so I’d say they aren’t too far off in terms of use.

    I should add that I was playing a Japanese strat, quite a bright guitar, I’m curious to see if the difference is as pronounced with humbuckers!
     
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    Interesting comparison. I find the 65s that I have (I know that there's lots of slightly different ones) have a muted top end that makes them more suited to a bright(er) amp like a master volume. I'm not sure how well they'd work with other kinds of amp, but people seem to love them all the same. All I can say is that I much prefer greenbacks, but 65s are certainly in that 'Master of Puppets' tonal area.
     
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