Shredding, overdone?

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  1. dragonvalve

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    And they call the wind Uriah...

    Ken had that cranked Leslie tone. Love it!


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    I would love to be able to shred but it's not happening anytime soon.
    I think if you cant shred you focus on songwriting which is way more important. There are very few shredders which have also been great songwriters...evh comes to mind.
    While most great songwriters are certainly not virtuosos...Lennon/McCartney/Harrison, Dylan, Keith Richard's, Neil Young, Cobain, Gilmour etc
     
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    Shredding is way overdone. I remember years ago playing in a club, shredding my fingers until they almost bled (I thought I was doing great) and this stunningly beautiful brunette came up to talk in between sets. Ultimately she asked me why I played like that and I didn't have a response. She asked me why I don't play simpler solos that have a melody instead of a bunch of noise. Later, after the gig, my mind starting wandering and it's like my eyes were opened...an epiphany of sorts. Yes, it's way overdone. It's almost like guitar players can't even imagine a melody and put that on the fingerboard anymore. To me, the ultimate talent is a guitar player's musical expression...what can he imagine and can he put that on the fingerboard? Don't get me wrong, shredding has it's place. In fact it's one of the reasons I like John Petrucci so much. His solo in Under a Glass Moon has never been topped, IMHO. It combines both melody and very tasty shredding but the shreds and sweeps aren't overly oppressing. I prefer artists like Neil Schon and Satch for the same reasons. But I'd rather listen to artists like Chris Hayes from Huey Lewis or Steve Stevens from Billy Idol or Steve Howe from Yes. Non-shredders all, but some of the most melodic players I try to emulate.
     
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    These days in times of disharmony and confusion, people don't want to hear discord. They want rhyme and reason.

    It is easy to listen to songs like Under A Glass Moon and see merit but that would be by cultures who before C-19 were never in a sense of turmoil. You're not looking for your daily meal, live in comparatively luxury and your hierarchy of needs is way past food and shelter.

    We don't realize that the more comfortable someone's life is, the more they look for discord to compensate for the tranquility. Juxtaposed to those whose lives are still seeking basic survival, who can listen to Dream Theater and just hear more chaos and disarray.

    A musical instrument is capable of much information and we marvel at those that can glean all manner of finger positions and dexterity.

    But in the end, if music soothes the savage beast, what we consider food for the soul all depends on where we are in life.

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    Don't know if it's the camera angle but Oparin has the longest fingers I've seen.
     
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    For me the classical pieces just don't work well with high gain, buzzy electric guitar. Much better like this - imo




     
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    Damian is a speed demon. Needs a better pick to hear those run-up notes.


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    Ive heard the kid on the street, fabulous performance.

    The kid playing Paganini was amazing indeed.

    Reading the better bits of the thread, some great shredding afoot :applause:
     
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    Surely, your appreciation for playing proficiency-- as a player, you must certainly recognize the proficiency with which those pieces were performed, despite your alternative tone preferences.

    :agreed: Others with broken ears and a stunted sense of observation, not so much :cheers:
     
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    Shredding is amazing to me. That said...
    Page’s soloing is what Id like to get to.. it’s not machine gun/over done.... to my ears it’s Perfect..
    However if I could shred I’d soo over do it!!!
     
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    Shredding is merely a technique and approach, same as finger picking or playing slide.

    Bottom line-- same with music genres and styles: There's only two kinds-- Good and Bad, and then there's preference.
     
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