Shredding, overdone?

Discussion in 'The Cellar' started by chromeboy, Sep 8, 2020.

  1. chromeboy

    chromeboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2010
    Messages:
    625
    Likes Received:
    332
    Location:
    San Bruno,CA
    Anyone feel like shredding is just way overdone? I mean lots of people are just sweep happy and it's getting old plus many times to me it's just not musical. Now I am an old school guy, I can shred and know some sweeps but I rarely use it . I like to think I am more of a melodic metal player and really only shred when it's called for. So many times I hear guy just start shedding the moment they get a solo and it sounds like they are playing every note they have ever learned and trying to cram it in every measure.
    What do you guys think? I would love to start hearing more tasteful, melodic and musical solos.
     
    Deftone, instinctfx, DC135er and 3 others like this.
  2. JeffMcLeod

    JeffMcLeod Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2017
    Messages:
    1,837
    Likes Received:
    2,772
    Agreed, that's why I don't shred.

    Yeah, that's it, it's because it's way overdone, that's why I don't shred... :iough:
     
    stevoc and Mitchell Pearrow like this.
  3. giblesp

    giblesp Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2015
    Messages:
    410
    Likes Received:
    441
    We were already thinking that by 1990. Nirvana killed the shredders with a few notes. It was going to happen sooner or later, and the punks/post punkers/indie had been doing it for a while. Nirvana was the official death blow of the 80's shredder.
     
    Lance Chambers and Jammy Pig like this.
  4. Matthews Guitars

    Matthews Guitars Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2019
    Messages:
    3,739
    Likes Received:
    5,642
    To me, Nirvana was but one of several turds to fall in the rock and roll punch bowl. Hated it then, hated it now, but shred rock had run its course and for most people, metal fatigue had indeed set in. It was time for something new but unfortunately "new" was definitely not "better".
     
    paradox419, SLICKFASTER, nkd and 4 others like this.
  5. Dogs of Doom

    Dogs of Doom Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2012
    Messages:
    23,868
    Likes Received:
    28,268
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    shred if you got 'em...

    better to shred & be able to hold back, than be held back & not be able to shred...

    cello shred!

     
  6. PaulHikeS2

    PaulHikeS2 Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2020
    Messages:
    257
    Likes Received:
    564
    I don't know about any of you, but I feel it's not a solo unless you play EVERY SINGLE NOTE.
     
  7. JeffMcLeod

    JeffMcLeod Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2017
    Messages:
    1,837
    Likes Received:
    2,772
    Yeah, that's it, rub it in!

    :wallbash:
     
    Deftone and Mitchell Pearrow like this.
  8. Dogs of Doom

    Dogs of Doom Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2012
    Messages:
    23,868
    Likes Received:
    28,268
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    meh, I can't shred... but I envy those that do, not hate them for it...

    I agree though, that some of it can get to where it's not musical & just sounds like exercises in scales.

    I have to give it up though, when I saw Zakk Wilde, & he did a technical fest of scales upon scales that really weren't very musical, it was almost like he played every scale in the book & no matter what scale he played, I didn't hear any sour notes, to the rhythm he was playing over, so there's that. He did Sabbath songs & every song had a 10-15 minute solo. Probably 5,000 notes per solo...

    I can play 5 notes & hit a sour one... :nutkick:...
     
  9. JeffMcLeod

    JeffMcLeod Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2017
    Messages:
    1,837
    Likes Received:
    2,772
    Yep, same here. I'd love to be able to shred like some others. Not necessarily so I could do it or just show off, but it would represent a much higher level of playing than I'm at right now. In fact, I'd settle for half-shred, lol.
     
  10. Jammy Pig

    Jammy Pig New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2020
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    11
    the only thing i shred is CABBAGE.
     
  11. Sustainium

    Sustainium Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2019
    Messages:
    1,257
    Likes Received:
    2,556
    :slash: Ha, if all Cobain did was put an end to makeup, hairspray and spandex I’d consider him one of rock’s all time greatest success stories.
     
  12. crossroadsnyc

    crossroadsnyc Senior Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2009
    Messages:
    21,352
    Likes Received:
    20,799
    When I play stale blues licks for my daughter, she just kinda watches / listens ... when I step on it, she starts clapping. A two year old can tell you the answer ... shredding FTW :shred:
     
  13. ibmorjamn

    ibmorjamn Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2012
    Messages:
    8,568
    Likes Received:
    6,923
    Location:
    North
    I enjoy watching the technical players but that stuff is beyond me. I just watched a Gary Moore Vid on utube.“ I still got the Blues “ the way he holds the notes bend and slowly releases as well the subtle clean rhythm’s makes interesting music and the tone is amazing . Refreshing .
     
  14. chromeboy

    chromeboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2010
    Messages:
    625
    Likes Received:
    332
    Location:
    San Bruno,CA
     
  15. chromeboy

    chromeboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2010
    Messages:
    625
    Likes Received:
    332
    Location:
    San Bruno,CA
    I like Zak but he is really a one trick pony. He does mostly pentatonic's which is cool and what I also like to play but it's his harmonic sqeals that get old. Don't get me wrong he is a good player but nothing like Randy Rhoades and even Gus G is technically a better player plus his guitar solo with ozzy is way too long.
     
    ibmorjamn likes this.
  16. junk notes

    junk notes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2018
    Messages:
    2,255
    Likes Received:
    2,354
     
  17. RCM 800

    RCM 800 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2019
    Messages:
    874
    Likes Received:
    1,755
    I always thought of grunge as the nail in the coffin of butt rock. I was happy it came, end of the power ballads lol. I was always more into punk thrash and speed metal though. Ive never liked much of the virtuoso shred as its boring and repetitive. I admire their talent and skills but just doesnt do it for me. Same with Jazz.
     
  18. ricksdisconnected

    ricksdisconnected Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2019
    Messages:
    5,949
    Likes Received:
    9,100

    zak with Ozzy. Zak with BLS. two different Zak's same great player.
    Gus sucks.
     
    Deftone and Mitchell Pearrow like this.
  19. junk notes

    junk notes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2018
    Messages:
    2,255
    Likes Received:
    2,354
    uhuh
     
  20. LPMarshall hack

    LPMarshall hack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2009
    Messages:
    11,191
    Likes Received:
    11,543
    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    The sound of sweep picking disgusts me
     
    Deftone and Mitchell Pearrow like this.

Share This Page