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Should’ve went with what I knew to be true!

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  1. trax1139

    trax1139 Well-Known Member

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    Starting a new Rock trio, I needed to gear up. Back in the day, I used a 100w Super Lead day in and day out in all situations. Life and the music was wonderful. But, nowadays all you hear and read on this forum is...it’s too loud, it’s too big, it’s too heavy and IT’S TOO LOUD! Did I say it’s too loud? Bedroom levels (what the hell is that?) 1x10 combos, 5w Super Lead Simulators, attenuate the attenuators, mic it up through the PA...and on and on. So, with all that brainwashing, I opted for the 35w Germino JTM45. Great amp! Hooked to 2 1960av 4x12 cabs, it sounds wonderful...just not nearly enough clean headroom and plain ol horsepower to keep up with a power drummer and Fender 300w Super Bassman. So, now it’s time to order the JTM 45/100 like I should have in the first place.
     
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    Good luck with the trio, I assume your returning the jtm? So I won't say hnad yet!
     
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    Well, times have changed and the audience wants to have fun, enjoy the night, hear the band/music without losing their hearing! It is what it is and if you dont concur, you wont get booked!
     
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    trax1139 Well-Known Member

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    Mention that to any top act that is booked to be the entertainment and not the background music at some sports bar
     
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    ricksdisconnected Well-Known Member

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    its hard to gear down when the others dont do the same.
     
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    StrummerJoe Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, it's the club players who are forced to turn down. People in the clubs like to be able to still talk to each other and not have their ears ringing the next day.

    Good luck with the new band!
     
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    trax1139 Well-Known Member

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    #1... How can a drummer “gear down” unless it’s a plastic electronic set
    #2...a band can’t play a quiet dynamic musical passage with little tinker toy gear that fills the room with fullness and power. So, it’s not just about loudness...quite the contrary.
     
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    Yeah, modern clubs are out of the question. Those gigs went away in the 80s for the most part.
     
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    ricksdisconnected Well-Known Member

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    most drummers DO NOT know how to control their volume.
    one of the main reasons a good drummer is hard to find.
     
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    Best of luck going forward man!
     
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    Yes, do drummers gear down?
     
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    trax1139 Well-Known Member

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    100% agree...but, I (we) don’t even come close to having that problem. All 3 players are seasoned and very good at their craft. Know how to use volume and dynamics. It’s just when it comes time for the big crescendo in Dazed and Confused, the little JTM gets all small sounding. Loud enough-just no balls
     
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    trax1139 Well-Known Member

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    Not since the 1920s
     
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    StrummerJoe Well-Known Member

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    That's probably more true of younger drummers.

    Dynamics and space were two things I learned later that really improved my playing.
     
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    I've played w/ some damn good drummers & they are, & can be LOUD!
     
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    don't listen to the forum mob...
     
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    LOUD!!!!! :)...

    :wave:
     
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    ricksdisconnected Well-Known Member

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    says a mobster member. roflmao.
     
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    ricksdisconnected Well-Known Member

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    dont shoot me guys im just trying to help the guy out here.
     
  20. Dogs of Doom

    Dogs of Doom >>> Moderator <<< Staff Member

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    I'm definitely not one of the mob...

    Do I start dozens of anti-Gibson, anti-Marshall, anti-loud, threads?

    &/or join in w/ the pitchforks & torches?
     

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