Redoing my 1960 A&B cabs. Thinking about Oxblood grill cloth?

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    Any MFers have cabs with the Oxblood style grill cloth?
    Thinking about removing the tolex and a total refurb, stain and poly on the wood. Curious how the Oxblood grill cloth will enhance the look?

    ANY PICS?

    Suggestions-drawbacks-better choices-quality differences between styles?
    Thanks
     
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    I'm not a fan, but... there's probably 30 different types of oxblood grillcloth...

    for instance, a quick search, comes up w/ this sample:

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    everyone has their own idea of what oxblood is...

    One thing, the idea that you cab's are plywood, isn't the best choice of wood for natural/stain finishes. The edges of plywood don't stain well, & look unfinished, even if left natural...

    Just a thought...
     
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    Depends on the stain color.
    And staining depends on how the cab wood looks naked.
    And what are the plans for the head shell?
     
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    Ultimately,
    If the boxes clean up , and dont look so plywoodish? I'll stain them a lightish pecan-golden oakish. Nothing dark,but shades darker than natural ply. If the boxes are not up to par? I'll make a 3 sided non invasive/removable sleeve of 1" poplar that encapsulated the originall without harming the oem cab, yet still looking oem, just slightly thicker. Im sure the extra wood will change the cab s tone somewhat , but thats ok. Head and cabs will both be popular
     
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    I kinda like em all.
    Honestly , they would all work for the look im going for. More like a piece of furniture over an amp.
     
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    I really like the look of uncovered ply cabs. It's crude, not pretty like the bare solid exotic wood cabs Geeze makes, but ruggedly charming to me.

    But unless the original covering is shredded and torn off in big chunks, I don't think I could bring myself to strip a cab.

    Edward Van Halen liked naked cabs: IMG_4729-scaled.jpg

    And here are a couple random web pics:

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    I've never seen one with oxblood
     

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    Sounds interesting.
    1" poplar sleeves might be more difficult than just making new cabs and moving the speakers - Just leave the 1960's as is.
    New tolex seems easier, but I do love a good woodworking amp/cab project.
    Please post pics.
     
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    there's even more w/ some unorthodox patterns, if you look through vintage radio shop materials.

    Best bet is to pick out the one, then try & get a good stain color to match, or offset & compliment it well.

    Look forward to see what you come up w/.
     
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    Cabinet maker by old trade. So I have what it takes.Poplar is nice to work with ,and inexpensive.-takes a finish well.

    Winter project for sure. Im just putting it to paper , trying to eliminate any possible unforseen hurdles now.
     
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    I dont hate that look.
    My furniture around it , is a Mexican hacienda type wood. Bulky waxed,medium finish...somewhat distressed and checked. So it would blend rather easily. Maybe finish the holes/blems etc with epoxy and birch wood dust to match, and just router the edges, just to clean things up. Might even use a gel stain to cover the blems and even the tone ,to make it more consistent for said application.
     
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    I think you missed my edit in your reply.
    I'll rephrase:
    Just make new cabs out of poplar and leave the 1960s alone.
    Move the speakers and wiring over - easy to reverse.
     
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    Ive thought that through too. That can get out of hand quickly.......very quickly.
    But I could do half blind/double inlayed dovetails, or flamelocs for something different ?
    Soon it will go from Poplar to Cocabola-Paduk and Wenge. Then Im in deep. I can't overthink this .

    Cab will probably look like its more of a "Cowboys amp", than a rock/metal guy.
     
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    Why not?
    Overthinking things is part of the process of a good final outcome.
    Simple box lap joint would be strong, easier to cut than dovetails, and stunning.
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    dude!

    I now found the secret to Eddie's tone (the brown soundâ„¢)

    EVH.jpg

    who/what's that in his speaker cone? :)...

    :wave:
     
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    They make a paper thin veneer of any wood, glue that on over the ply and it will look nice and clean ready for stain. :yesway:
     
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    This would be my low effort suggestion but I am a habitual and chronic over doer! I also second the finger joints if you do dive off the over doer cliff.

    Russ
     
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    See.....

    Here we go.
     
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    Is that Tony Danza?
     
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    Youre thinking of Vin
     
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