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  1. tone seaker

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    not sure where to put this thread and I might be a little excessive OCD here but i have noticed on my picks that they vary as much as .002 (two thousands of a inch) from one to another, I use mediums and fenders vary from .025-.027 and tortex orange vary from .024-.026 which does make a feel and tone difference. Any one else ever notice this. I worked in machine shops for years and tolerences like that would be unaceptable
     
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    Tolerances within 0.002 is fairly normal on most engine builds.:hmm:

    I remember we would allow more on some drag motors to get them to rev quicker.:ohno:
     
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    Yeah .. That .002 can really mess with 1/64th notes at 128bpm , especially when covering Neil Young Leads ..
     
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    It might be your OCD :) I used to be machinist too and, as you know, tolerances depend on the function of the parts you're making - which can be even more critical when you're talking about tolerance stacks. Being that the pick is a single unit and the thickness is within 10%, I'd say based on its function that's pretty good. I would suspect if they tried to hold a +/- 5%, or even less, we would see the prices would go up. Enough to make a huge difference? Maybe not. You might be better off buying the picks in bulk and measuring them with a mic. Keep the picks you like and get rid of the rest. And I'm not making fun of you - I'm a bit OCD myself :).

    Whatever you do, don't measure the resistance of your volume or tone pots. With an average tolerance of +/-10% don't be surprised when your 500K pot measures 450K.
     
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    One of my buddy's that used to come in to the shop i worked at would tap test a whole brick of drumsticks. And he's right, there's only one company that tone matches, and if the tone don't match, the density and feel are going to be off.
     
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    Head tap?
     
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    Formica counter top. He'd roll em too. There's a lot of shitty drumsticks out there.
     
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    What about weighing them after measuring the initial thickness parameter? Could be some density issues from batch to batch.
     
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    Heavies..................

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    Don´t know how to answer you. I use 2mm only, so if my pick bends in anyway I´ll buy something else that won´t bend.
     
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    I use these little darlin's

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    They're as hard and slick as glass and 1mm thick so a little variance would go unnoticed
     
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    I've been using these heavy jazz picks for over 30 years.

    I'm not a jazz guitarist.

    I gave these picks to jazz guitarist Jerry Topinka.................he gave them back to me, he said, "they make me play too fast!!!"


     
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    I think the type of pick makes more of a difference than thickness. Ive used tortex picks for years (the yellow and green ones) and recently got some fender picks with something I bought (cant remember what lol). Anyways the fender picks really have a different feel not only in the grip but in the way they feel against the strings. I kinda like the way they feel but Ive found they wear out way too fast for me. Id never broken a pick till I got those lol. Anyways I never thought about gauging picks. If the picks varied enough to actually feel the difference I would change brands, but then my usual go to is to thwack the strings pretty hard and see what neat noises come out of the amp :jam:. If I was a more subtle player maybe it would make more of a difference.
     
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    I'm a Teardrop person myself - Fender 358 Mediums. I've been playing these since my garage band days in middle school. I've tried others on occasion but kept coming back to these. Now I don't bother with anything else.

    I recently bought the 72 pack and for the heck of it measured the thickness of about a dozen or so. They are all .026 or .027.

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    I used Dunlop 1.0 my whole life until about a year ago when I bought about $200 in various picks to compare. I closed my eyes and grabbed from the bag. I retested the winner stacks ..so on. The clear winner over and over was this:

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    I'll never use another.
     
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