Origin 20 C, the learning curve

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    So after a few weeks of playing the 20C (my first Marshall) I was having a few things to work out. First of all a little backstory on me, I have played mostly F style amps since the 80's and mainly played 6L6 and 6V6 amps. Buut I did mod and play a Blues Jr (I know, I know) for a few year and had other amps along the way - Vox, Roland, Vox, Ampeg... But any who. I knew I liked the Origin but I knew I needed to learn how to utilize it best. So just learning Marshall front pannel EQ settings, took a bit of adjustment. But I think I have the hang of it now, but I was having some issues with microphonic tubes, so a bit of swappin ( just pre amp, still need to order power tubes as I do not have any EL's around) and much better. The original pre amp tubes are just junk, picking up crazy sounds from my hand moving on the bridge and conversations of people on phones passing by, too bright and brittle, the controls on the guitar not being very usable. Now things are much better, the too trebly ice pick is gone, the noise floor is way lower and the amp is so quiet now. The controls on the guitar actually do something and have range. I have never seen such a drastic change in just pre amp tubes.
    Then the speaker, while a fine sounding speaker the V type is just not what I want in a Marshall. So playing through a few cabs I have I landed on the Eminence GB128, much better.
    So all in all I now have the hang of it and the amp sounds freekin killer.
    Here is to the learning curve and some hints from yoos all, thank you . :dude:
     
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    So a set of JJ's El34's are on the way. I will probably try these out for a while and the try something else later and use the JJ's as backups. But I am hoping for a big improvement, as in my experience the jump from the crap stockers to JJ's is significant usually. Any other suggestions ?
     
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    I have an Origin 5C with similar results. Of all the Marshalls I have this one only sounds half way decent clean. I'll take it to the bench and start rolling tubes sometime this winter. No hurry, I use the super lead as my go to.
     
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    I put Rubies in my 50H
    Congratulations on your new amp
    Cheers
    Mitch
     
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    the lot of the 1x12's, Tried a
    1- Webber 12A125, sounds very good and breaks up nicely but not "British" at all
    2-Very British Alnico 12, very good speaker with great articulation. But will try this again after power tubes come.
    3- Lady luck- very much like a very bright Green Back, too bright but nice breakup
    4- Eminence GB128 - Juuuust right
    mmm.jpg
     
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    One of mine was sounding muffled. Changed V1 to a tung sol and now its fine. Other than that mine are both still stock.
     
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    I spose I need to remember to not sound like my experience is gospel, just what happened in my shed. But I was not able to play my very bright SG with the Origin before and now it sounds awesome, so I am getting closer to learning how to get the most from this thing. Hopefully by next freeking year I can jam with the damn thing :shred2:.
     
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    So here is proof I have no self respect, a horrible phone recording that truly does not capture what it sounds like, but does capture my sloppy noodling.

     
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    Are you sure you don't already have JJ el34's? My 20H came with them stock (well there's a JJ logo on the base).

    I also had issues with an original preamp tube. Currently using a sovtek lps because thats what the internet says in the V3 slot and a JJ ecc803 long plate in V1, with the stock chinese tube in V2. I tried a few configurations with these including another regular JJ 12ax7 and really happy with this combo, especially the long plate JJ in V1.
     
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    Ah crap, well I got backups now.
     
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    That sounds damn good bro!
    Cheers
    Mitch
     
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    One of my 50H’s has mullard reissues in all 3 positions, and Ruby power tubes, the other one has a single mullard in V1, and the stock tubes it shipped with, I really can’t hear much of a difference between the two, but I have quit rolling tubes in them for now. I think they sound good together.
    I like running both amps at the same time, with a MXR10 band eq and either a SD1 or Joyo ultimate drive as a clean boost in front of them .
    Old school rock tone for sure.
    Cheers
     
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    This is how they sound with the way I like to hear them!
    Thanks
     
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    My Origin sounded great with a Barber Direct Drive Compact.
    Alone the amp is lacking.
    The OD pedal brought it to life.
     
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    I love the GB128 with my SC800. Your vid sounded great man. Enjoy the chit out of it!
     
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    (I mean this in a good way)
    That had some stank on it :dude:
     
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    Thank you :cheers:
     
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    I thank you my brother.
    A compliment from another player is the best..
    Cheers
    Mitch
     
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