"once Upon A Time There Was A Thing Called Raw Talent"

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  1. zachman

    zachman Well-Known Member

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    im sure you think so in your mind[/QUOTE]

    What tipped you off?
     
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    soulcaster gets it.....
     
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    a les Paul or any instrument and amp can definately sound plain in the hands of an untalented person
     
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    Water analogy weak....Cup=amp chassis....Ice=transformers and tubes....Want to add flavor turn the eq knobs on the amp.....Want more flavor's(lemon,koolaid,ect)turn the guitar knobs and learn how to play with some style and articulation....If it still doesnt taste good then maybe water is not for you
     
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    What tipped you off?[/QUOTE]
    I know where I can make my next million....Making pedals.....I even got names for them..."starmaker" "lazytoy" crutchbox" .....I wonder why vintage amp heads and cars are so much more money and in demand.....Hmmmmmmmm
     
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    This will be my number one seller...."the toolbox"...I'll load it with a few resistors,capacitors and flavors...Probably cost me $10....And I'll sell it to you guys for $150 and claim it will be your best tool ever.....Of coarse it will sell like hotcakes...Because there is a big market for automatic guitar tone enhancers :)
     
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    For those of you that get what I'm saying "you are a step ahead for thinking out of the box"
    for those who don't get it"keep the pedal makers laughing all the way to the bank and keep on stepping on the box"

    Tomykoz out
     
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    Hi Tom. Typically in a forum you will make a single post and wait to others to reply. Currently you're at 6 consecutive posts and counting, so it appears that you are having a conversation with yourself.
     
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    To the OP,

    I am sure we all get what you are saying, but no one wants to be generalized down to having no talent if you like to use effects. And, you act like this is something new, bah!

    Hell, I have no talent and I plug straight in to my Marshall!

    And overall, I'd say you are barking up the wrong forum, Marshall users tend to know great tone!
    Pedals/Racks/Effects are just tools of the trade....fairly simple to understand the way I see it.

    So, we're just not sure YOU get it!
     
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    Like I said, "Those who can, DO".

    All I know of you is, you seem to like to talk/write a lot-- sadly just not so articulate, or clearly thought out. Oh well... Now is your chance to do more than just talk. Go for it.

    Did you make your 1st $Million in the music business? If so, in what capacity? (yah, right) Never mind /sarc


    Free market forces known as Supply & Demand. ;)
     
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    ^^ This ^^
     
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    Söulcaster Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    Opinions, some say they're like assholes and everyone has one.

    I say they are like orgasms, mine is more important than yours and I don't care if you have one.....;)

    Hope everyone is doing well....

    :cheers:
    Peace
     
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    New sig. That is AWESOME!
     
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    Oh well .... I hate comps , love wahs and all gain-related pedals/overdrives.... for me they are all little preamps with different colors and will sound different when coupled to different amps. Tools for use when desired .
     
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    Sort of like announcing water is wet, but insisting it can only be enjoyed to the fullest one way, and all other ways are wrong or somehow insufficient, and having it w/ ice is not as 'organic' and natural, and therefore ineligible to be the best. (Swimming, drinking, bathing).





    isn't that kinda what your doing? insisting that it can only be enjoyed 1 way,
    and all other ways are wrong, by basically saying that pedals/effects are for the talentless?

    just curious here, but what bands do you listen to?
     
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    All the hoopla put aside , I DO get his point .
     
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    we get what he is saying too but its not the sharpest way to look at things.
    its kind of like saying all folks in wheelchairs are useless because they cant walk.
    or that all people that choose to have kids are idiots because the world has enough people already.
    just a very sad way to look at things.
     
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    but it is something that can be don't in public with ones self w/o going to jail. :cool:
     
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    Well, water IS actually required for everyone genius... Some choose to recognize uses other than drinking it. Way to miss the point :)

    We ALL do.

    Summary of the obvious to apparently everyone but the OP

    The point of musical gear is: They are tools, to be used by players to make music

    If one has no talent (Can't be taught) or skill (Proficiency developed over time practicing), the gear is irrelevant. (Sort of like saying, Water is wet. It doesn't exactly illustrate the thoughts of a deep thinker, because even if one does develop skill/proficiency-- Preferences vary. The accounting of taste is determined by the market, which is often contrary to those who focus on 'Artistic integrity', which explains the thousands of starving 'Artists' out there)

    Avoiding Truth

    There is a principal which is a bar against all information,
    which is proof against all argument,
    and which can not fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance.

    That principal is Condemnation, before investigation.

    --Edmund Spencer

    My $.02
     
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