New member thread.. again

Discussion in 'Marshall Amps' started by Rainer, May 29, 2020.

  1. Rainer

    Rainer New Member

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    Hi everyone!
    Just started aquiring my first marshall rig. Always dreamed about owning one and now I finally have the finances to pull it off.

    So far I’ve got a 2016 1960A cab.

    Now I’m looking for a head for it which brings me to my question.

    I’ve found a 1985 JCM 800 2204. The seller is looking for 800€ (~890$) which I think is a fair price if it’s in perfect working order. It looks nice judging by the pics the guy sent me. Some small dings but hey the thing is 35 yrs old :)

    Question is if it’s really the model the seller claims? I’ve compared the pics to other 2204’s on the net but haven’t found a single one that matches the looks of this amp (rear panel, number and placement of filter caps etc etc).
    Maybe I’m sweating over nothing here?

    Would be nice if someone with more experience in this could shed some light on this.

    Thanks for taking the time to read through my long post :ugh:
     
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  2. Chris-in-LA

    Chris-in-LA Well-Known Member

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    Something odd about it. Never saw one with a lay down power transformer. Missing script, extra hole on the front. Mismatched switch types. Caps in the wrong spot. Ask for a picture of the insides. It might be a clone/kit shoved in a Marshall cabinet. The cab looks right.
     
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    Looks odd to me. Here are pictures of my 2204 before I sold it.

    JCM 800 1 M.JPG JCM 800 6 M.JPG
     
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    Pass unless the price can be reduced, substantially.
     
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  5. Rainer

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    Thanks for the quick replies guys! :)

    Here some gut shots. The guy happily sent them to me so I’m not sure he’s aware it might be a clone or something.

    Haven’t found the ”one letter 5 digits” code anywhere either. It should say ”T nnnnn” if I’ve got this right?

    @Chris-in-LA yeah the cab’s already mine and ok :)

    @John BNY thanks for your input

    @anitoli No I won’t touch it if it’s a clone the amp will be just as much an investment as a great music tool for me. I sold my beloved 93 American standard stratocaster I had for 20 years to buy a great amp instead.
     

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    This look like a amp Sold in Sweden ?
    You are Swedish ?

    If so maybe i can help you out :)

    TC

    And :welcome: to the forum
     
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    Keep looking, thats not a good one. Welcome to the forum!
     
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    ampmadscientist Well-Known Member

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    It's a real 800, 2204 but they are concealing the actual condition.
    The photos don't really show you what you are actually buying.
    It looks like maybe smoke damage from a fire.
    So never buy an amplifier without looking inside of the chassis. It could be fire damaged, or other.

    Insist on much better photographs, that clearly show the whole amp.
    Faceplate, rear panel, inside the chassis etc.
     
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    I think tce63 called it. It might not be a non American/England model, and is probably missing the 16 ohm tap.
     
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    It would still be worth it if it's not too messed up. I don't give a hang about 16 ohm output.
    Just use Canadian 8 ohm cabs.
     
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    @tce63 yes I’m from Sweden. Any help is greatly appreciated :)

    @ampmadscientist Wow now I’m really confused :D could you elaborate on that?


    Wow what forum members there are here! All so helpful and welcoming:dude:
     
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    +1

    to OP.. If part of the justification is the "heirloom" investment aspect rather than just the JCM800 sound, then you need to find something un-modded.. even some random export to Fkknowitstan would not have empty holes in the faceplate and rear panel.. so it has been modded.. and hence, just like you are doing now, its value, condition and originality is suspect... hence not worth the investment (to me)

     
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    I sent you a PM :agreed:
     
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    I totally agree.
    IF I would sell it later on the buyer would say ”it’s been modded I’ll give you 200$”.
    I’d have to get it dirt cheap to take the risk.
    That was the beauty of the strat. Had a blast with it for 20 yrs and sold it for more $$$ than I paid for it myself.

    Maybe I’ll give him a really low offer or pass entirely..

     
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    Greetings!
     
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    Welcome to the forum.
    Cheers
    Mitch
     
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    It may have been modded and returned to as stock as they could, the hole in back panel does have nothung in it. But it is not bone stock.
    Part of it would be if it sounds great like ypu want it to amd how common they may be around there.
     
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    What are you confused about?
    Some amps did not have 16 ohm output. The amps were made for 4 and 8 ohm only instead.
    But that's not anything to cry about.
     
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    The board looks like the real deal. The connections to the transformer and switches looks modern, everything was soldered in the old days.
     
  20. Rainer

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    @ampmadscientist I meant your earlier post I should’ve quoted it in my reply. My bad :shrug: My confusion was if the amp was a real Marshall or a clone.

    I believe it’s a genuine Marshall like many of you have said. Still don’t get the odd placement of two of the caps?
    +1 @Jethro Rocker it’s been modded and returned to stock.
    Found the serial number and it indeed says ”T something” as it should. D7D529B2-5678-4B07-962A-8BB46A883059.jpeg

    Oh forgot to mention I’m also negotiating bout a 2005 JCM 2000 DSL 100 with another seller. He’s dropped it of at the local store for inspection and if it’s good I’ll buy it and look for a more stock 800.
     
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