Need good head suggestions

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  1. Adey1981

    Adey1981 Member

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    Hi guys I need some advice with a rig upgrade. I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to amps, I'm using a Haze 40 combo with a Celestion k85 at the moment (my first real amp) and it does the job, but I think I could do better.

    I love the late 60's to early 80's Marshall tones, so Cream, Uli Roth (Taken by force), ACDC, Graham Coxon (Of Blur, uses jcm800 I believe). Quintessential Marshall?

    I typically set the amps volume to match the drummer so need an amp that'll shine at that volume. Master volume is a must, I need some flexibility when it comes to balancing gain levels with volume. Currently I have the amp set to light to moderate break-up (acdc-ish) and put in either a boost, rat clone or TBmkii clone to get into higher gain.

    My budget is around £400-450

    I could get a new DSL20H for around £350
    Or used I was thinking either a Dsl50 or a Vintage modern which would max my budget.
    Hearing the 3 amps on YT the 50 watters sound thicker and meatier and I'd imagine even more so IRL.
    But then would a 50w head sound any good that low? my Haze never goes past 12 o'clock (even at an outdoor festival)
    I play pubs/clubs 99% of the time.

    I'll be pairing it up with some kind of 2x12 with V30s (tried a 1960 with em recently and omg, the internet was right )

    I'm open to any suggestions, doesnt have to be Marshall necessarily, though must have that classic Brit sound.

    Cheers
     
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    Exotic Well-Known Member

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    ah dr goodhead i know her

     
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    Exotic Well-Known Member

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    i think this related somehow? found it by dr goodhead

     
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    marshallmellowed Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it depends on where you live, but it shouldn't be hard to find, if you look in the right place. If you're lucky, it could be right next door.
     
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    First post to the forum. Exotic, I am am laughing so hard I’m crying. Poor dude got more then he asked for. 2 thumbs up.
     
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    I have a Marshall DSL20CR, and I boost the Classic Gain Channel with either a Behringer Tube Monster VT999, or a Blackstar HT Drive for something other than simply using the the two channels on the DSL20CR.
    I put a Celestion Vintage 30 into the DSL20CR combo, and I run a Marshall MX112 underneath the DSL20CR loaded with a Celestion V-Type.
    As much as I spent on the DSL20CR rig, you could just try to "save up" get a Marshall DSL40CR and be settled.
    My problem with getting the DSL20CR to "break up" as soon as I wanted was solved in part by changing the speaker.
    That adds $160 to the total cost of the DSL20CR.
     
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    Kinkless Tetrode Well-Known Member

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    As soon as saw the thread title I couldn't wait to see what would be posted.....
     
  9. pulsonicsound

    pulsonicsound Well-Known Member

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    If you want a modern head the 50w VM is a reasonable head and can be had for £450

    you can get a seventies valve head for peanuts in the U.K. for example Carlsbro 60w pa’s are dirt cheap(like £300) and have good transformers, a mk4 soundcity pa is also a good shout as they don’t have active EQ’s like the rest of the mk4 lineup.

    the above don’t have have master volume in the modern sense of the word so you’d need a distortion pedal if you want overdrive.


    Might be worth saving a little more money, as you can get decent amps in the £800 price range, ie a sixties vox ac50, a simms watts AP, a Laney klipp etc etc, that’ll even put you into jcm800 territory the last one I bought was the princely sum of £750 this April just gone (a 1984 lead series #2210 100 w head)

    if I was you I’d save for a #2210 as they have reverb And are footswitchable between the channels

    I hope that helps
     
  10. EADGBE

    EADGBE Well-Known Member

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    If you could find a good DSL50 or TSL60 that's what I would go for.
     
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    Sg-ocaster Well-Known Member

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    Gotta admit I cracked a smile when I read ur title.....:naughty:
     
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    Sir Don Well-Known Member

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    Don't know how much they cost over your side of the pond but a SC20H would seem to fit the bill.
     
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    scozz Well-Known Member

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    I too was intrigued by that title!




    (@Exotic s' video intrigued me even more!) :naughty:
     
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    Why is everyone talking about amps in a porn thread?

    What you need is a DSL 40 watt head. Marshall haven't actually made it yet but patience is a virtue.
     
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    MarshallDog Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Oh, this is a great title indeed and I hope you found good head, no tooth dragging lol!
     
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  16. Adey1981

    Adey1981 Member

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    Well I'm excited to see my gag went down well with you guys. My threads normally suck, so it's a relief to see it come to fruition.
    (I'll get my coat)

    Aaaanyway.

    So it looks like I might be on the right track with the dsl50 or VM. I'd rather not have a combo, our rehearsal room has a 1960a and some of our gig venues have cabs too, I think having a head and cab would be better for me. I'm not too keen the idea of those old 70's PAs, I'd rather be more conventional.

    The studio classic is £700+ over here I think.

    I suppose the real question is for me (and I probably should of just asked this) is. Will a low watt amp sound better pushed, than a higher watt amp in 2nd gear?
    To me, the dsl20h and dsl50 have similar tones, except the 50 just sounds bigger, thicker etc. Will a 50w marshall sound good at drummer volumes?

    Cheers m'dears
     
  17. pulsonicsound

    pulsonicsound Well-Known Member

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    I’d go for the higher wattage all the way, you’ll get more headroom and slightly more bottomend clarity, that depends on the amp obviously but with a Marshall 50 or 100 mv amps are pretty versatile
     
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    In your price range I would look at the DSL100hr, the Origin50h, The DSL20 and Origin20h. Really depends on how loud your drummer is and how he is set up. My origin 20h into V30's keeps up with my drummer on the 3w setting but we are using a pocket kit set up to be low volume. Might want to look at used Orange Dual and Tiny Terror amps too. Lots of options for your money especially in the used market.
     
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  19. Adey1981

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    I had a listen to the SC20H on youtube and I think the dsl20h and origin 20 sound better.
    I also listened to more of the VM and that has seriously impressed me, like having a plexi and jcm800 in one amp (despite being kt66?) Either way it sounds great.

    Edit - will check out ori50 now, I do love the vintage look.
     
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  20. purpleplexi

    purpleplexi Well-Known Member

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    I like your subtle use of the word 'gag'.
     
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