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Modern Amps Compared To Vintage Amps Characteristics

Discussion in 'Marshall Amps' started by What?, May 28, 2018.

  1. What?

    What? Well-Known Member

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    What sorts of anomalies do you hear in modern amps in comparison to classic amps?

    These are sweeping generalities, but some things that I often hear in modern amps are:

    Overly compressed and honky/boxy.
    Scooped, lacking mids and treble that cuts through.
    Too much gain.
    Lack in tonal complexity.
    Lack in overall clarity.

    I have heard these characteristics moreso in budget amps, but I have heard them plenty in modern expensive amps.

    What specific factors do you think contribute to these anomalies? Transformers, tubes, capacitors?

    That isn't even getting into the quality of speakers being used today. The trend there seems to be scooped, boomy, and bright. The smiley face sort of sound.

    And on many budget amps, I really dislike the trend toward digital reverb over spring reverb. This seems like a move toward making disposable amps, not amps that will be around and sounding great decades later.
     
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    Mat_P Active Member

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    I wouldn't call these anomalies, rather design features. That's just how the kids like it in times of spotify and mp3.
     
  3. ampmadscientist

    ampmadscientist Well-Known Member

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    "This seems like a move toward making disposable amps..."

    I have said the same thing many times.
    Starting out all the amps were made by hand point to point, and there were no printed circuit boards.
    You could buy any part to fix any amplifier, never even dream of throwing one away.
     
  4. solarburnDSL50

    solarburnDSL50 Well-Known Member Platinum Supporting Member

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    Who doesn't like an amp that plays itself? Until your ear and fingerz play better.

    either way I give a chit. Vintage circuits make me happy. Overly inflated gain circuits make some feel their tantrums are worthy...they're not. Such is puberty.
     
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    Dmann Well-Known Member

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    I'm curious why you think an amp has to last someone decades? Its like you think you are allowed to buy one $3000 amp and must stick with it for life.... if you want a different sound then you must buy another $3000 amp and stick it in your man cave.

    The realization is, a lot of people can play guitar and you dont have to be a pro or in a working band to do that. Affordable amps are there for the hobbyist which is by and far the majority.

    I think you're view is skewed to the point of silliness.
     
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    tschrama Well-Known Member

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    It isnt in the tubes, caps, tubes or other components. It is per design.

    Different music styles demand diferent amp designs.
     
  7. Ufoscorpion

    Ufoscorpion Well-Known Member

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    My EVH lbx ii does a better AC/DC for example than my Marshalls at ' sensible ' volume on the blue ( high gain ) channel . This is the only modern ' high gain ' amp I've owned or indeed played it's the bees knees , absolutely no complaints here .
     
  8. BrentD

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    I largely agree but I wonder if scooped and boxy aren't mutually exclusive.
     
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    mickeydg5 Well-Known Member

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    Modern or modernly modified amplifiers are definitely better. Always. For sure. Of course. And no doubt.
     

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