Marshall Valvestate 8100 Head??

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  1. jmp45

    jmp45 Well-Known Member

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    Checking to see if any of you guys see any value in the 8100. After picking up a Lead 12 I'm curious about other Marshall SS amps. GC has one in decent shape with pedal for about $250. Good deal?
     
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    Here's a review from 1991! The first page is upside down for some reason (have to hit the spin button), but the others are OK.

    https://www.musicradar.com/guitarist/marshall-valvestate-8100-head-270170

    The 1st ValveStates are supposed to be the best of the three marques. I had the 8080 combo back in the 90's but can't remember much about it.
    They have an 8080 going at one local guitar shop, but it seems to be damp damaged. The pots are knackered, and the screws that hold the chassis are rusted. Gutted when I tried it out.

    A good 8100 head goes for about £130 in the UK ($170).
     
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    Thanks Sky, it is higher than I'd like to pay, but it is clean.
     
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    thats the head that the guy from death used to use , you get the right tube it has one 12ax7 on the pre amp and you will get a bass tone

    here its a review

    some say its the best SS head

     
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    Thanks Dose, actually never heard of that band. It's in good shape so did the deed. It's on police hold til 11/4 so if I decide to change my mind no big deal. If I don't like it or it has issues it will get returned for refund.
     
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    This is a really good pick up imo. I've got the 8200 (same amp but has chorus on it) It does 80s 90s metal pretty well and using a boost can yield some good results. I hope you enjoy it. :jam:
     
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    The Ola Englund video posted is using the Valvestate MkII VS100RH head unfortunately.
    So not actually representative of the 8100.
    I have searched YT for a decent 8100 vid but they are mostly ass. That's the problem when the amp was discontinued pre-internet I suppose.

    As for the price, it will depend on availability where you are. Maybe England has more on the 2nd hand market, making them cheaper. Supply & demand.
     
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    It's about the same $ as a boutique pedal.. It would be my first Marshall head that has an effects loop, albeit a solid state, see how that works out.
     
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    Here's a video demonstrating the 8100 with some music by Death.

     
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    I’ve got two old valvestate 8100’s and love them. Here are two badass songs recorded with 8100’s. These are perfect examples of their metal capabilities.



     
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    I have an old Marshall Shredmaster pedal with a contour pot. I'm wondering if these 8100s came out around the same time using a similar eq process. Thanks guys for the posts.
     
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    Yes the Shredmaster came out in the 90’s just like the valvestates. Very cool and pretty rare pedal. I’d bet it’s very similar to the preamp circuit of the valvestates. Hot rodded JCM 800 tones.
     
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    Thanks, I did get that pedal in the 90s from a shop. Thought that contour pot was interesting at the time. I was wondering if the tone stacks were similar.

    Alvin got me interested in the Lead 12, glad he did. Thought I'd test the waters with another SS Marshall, this one peaked my interest. I have the 9000 series rack gear, 9001, 9004 and 9005. The 9004 ss preamp from that era sounds pretty cool into the 9005.

    I'm always been partial to 4 holers, classic rock, blues and prog. Not really a metal guy so this is off my beaten path a bit. I saw a couple clips with some od crunch and it sounded ok thru my bose. It appeared to me it may be a little more than a metal head.
     
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    I loved the Valvestates I have played and the 8100 is slightly better than the VS100 series. They are tight as hell and have tons of gain. With a good cabinet they can hang with anything if that is the kind of tone you are looking for.
     
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    I love the classic Prong Tones. So fat and aggressive.
     
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    Good comparo here but he's boosting it.



    ........the 19:35 mark is your target info.
     
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    I think the real magic to the 8200 is when you boost them. I don't fault any amp for sounding better boosted as almost every amp I prefer with some kind of clean boost upfront.
     
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    They can be versatile depending on how you dial them in. Be careful with the treble as it can get shrill if you're not careful. I've seen all kinds of different players using them with good results. Hope it works out for you. :dude:
     
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    I had an 8200 s well...from about '96 to 2004(ish)

    It would every now and again just have a high pitch squeal I could never debug.
    It wasn't the preamp tube...and you could never get it to happen when on a bench.

    It had many shows/gigs and I sold it.
     
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