Marshall prices US vs. Europe

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Ridiculous, right?

I've heard only good things about Thomann, but I'm still not bold enough to open the box w/o talking to them first. I don't want *any* room for the thought that I'm in any way responsible. I'm going to IM Thomann in the morning, and see what they tell me to do. At this point I only know that it's severely crushed and taped back together. When I pick it up, I can hear lots of things rattling and rolling around inside. Such a shame, for an incredible amp.

Anyone want to start a pool on what Thomann tells me to do? My guess is "Bring it right back to a UPS store and file a claim. They'll send it back to us and we'll send you a new one once we get it.".
If I had my druthers, it would be to file the claim then "throw it out, we'll send you a new one once UPS resolves the case". Then I see what I can do w/a "mostly demolished refurb".
I think ordering a flight case with an amp head or combo wouldbe good insurance and worthwhile
 

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I think ordering a flight case with an amp head or combo wouldbe good insurance and worthwhile

Not saying that's not a great idea, but it does say something pretty pathetic with how packages are being handled lately...
 

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Not saying that's not a great idea, but it does say something pretty pathetic with how packages are being handled lately...
Its our reality , unfortunately.
They are busier with freight packages more than ever before. Forecast , it will get even busier.
Intl shipments of heavy electronics like 1959 are worthy of flight case purchase. Imo
 

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Its our reality , unfortunately.
They are busier with freight packages more than ever before. Forecast , it will get even busier.
Intl shipments of heavy electronics like 1959 are worthy of flight case purchase. Imo

Yeah, I hear you, and don't disagree. It's just sad that we're being trained to accept such [email protected] service and expected to pay full price for it.
 

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Yeah, I hear you, and don't disagree. It's just sad that we're being trained to accept such [email protected] service and expected to pay full price for it.
Its going to get het much worse til each house has s 3 d printer and makes theproduct in your house
 

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Its going to get het much worse til each house has s 3 d printer and makes theproduct in your house

LOL, that's true! Though then we'll be complaining that the shipments of substrate and printing materials get lost and damaged! :D
 

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The thing is ( i can't locate the thread) someone here tried to order Marshall from Thomann UK and when they got to the payment stage a pop up told them they can't ship to the US. I wish i could find the thread.

anitolli... I just had the same experience. I was looking at a Marshall SV20H... Thomann, with shipping was around $700.... Sweetwater wants $1,700. Plus tax. And I got the same message that they won't ship Marshall's to the USA.

$1000+ more expensive. The word "criminal" comes to mind.
 

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We have the same issue with a lot of US brands which are either not distributed (where we end up paying 20%+ markup on retail price + shipping) or obscenely priced (Mesa - that’s you I’m talking about).
 

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anitolli... I just had the same experience. I was looking at a Marshall SV20H... Thomann, with shipping was around $700.... Sweetwater wants $1,700. Plus tax. And I got the same message that they won't ship Marshall's to the USA.

$1000+ more expensive. The word "criminal" comes to mind.
Several people here from the US have bought their Marshall stuff there recently without any issues.

@Bluewhalin bought a SV112 cab a week or two ago.
https://www.marshallforum.com/threads/perhaps-the-most-ridiculous-price-of-all.124622/post-2235276

@DougUSMC bought a half stack in January

 

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I did buy from Thomann, but it was a 1959 HW and in November...
I purchased the SV112 from Thomann. Ordered on Thursday at my door on Monday. The box looked fine, no issues. Saw those pictures of the 1959 box - yikes. Thomann customer service told me as long as I was under $800 I would avoid Customs Tax. Also - I’ve been looking at those Heads and thinking I’m cheating or something they’re so cheap. Does a normal US female end of the power cord fit the amp? What’s the story with switching tubes? Just all new tubes, get the same a you use in a head purchased here in the US? Obviously the head must be selectable to US power. Sorry for the 50 question drill. Thanks - your amp looks awesome!
 

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Thomann site now says that Marshall won’t let them sell to USA.
 

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Thomann site now says that Marshall won’t let them sell to USA.
Jep, they've closed that loop hole. So i hope you all have friends in the Army/Navy/Marine/AirForce who serve in Europe and can buy it local and relay that stuff to the US.
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So the US importers/retailers have more leverage on Marshall then Thomann does

Jep, they've closed that loop hole. So i hope you all have friends in the Army/Navy/Marine/AirForce who serve in Europe and can buy it local and relay that stuff to the US.
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Have you guys seen what a 1960BV is selling for new right now in the U.S.? Almost $2,000 USD
Yeah I actually bought one new at 1400 because I couldn’t find one local used, it came with the tolex ripped in a few spots and the badge plays off and all bent up. Nope…… my old 2011 model is perfect and cost me about 500, no way I pay that for a banged up one. Back it went and I’ll be fine with just one for now.
 

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I purchased the SV112 from Thomann. Ordered on Thursday at my door on Monday. The box looked fine, no issues. Saw those pictures of the 1959 box - yikes. Thomann customer service told me as long as I was under $800 I would avoid Customs Tax. Also - I’ve been looking at those Heads and thinking I’m cheating or something they’re so cheap. Does a normal US female end of the power cord fit the amp? What’s the story with switching tubes? Just all new tubes, get the same a you use in a head purchased here in the US? Obviously the head must be selectable to US power. Sorry for the 50 question drill. Thanks - your amp looks awesome!

Yeah, mine was trashed. Funny thing though - the 1959 was in almost perfect shape! I can't tell where you are, is it US? I don't believe I paid customs tax, or if I did it was wrapped up in my checkout price.

Yup, it seems the male end of the plug cord (the one attached to the amp) is standard. I just moved over another amp power cord I had (coincidentally a 1987x), and it was fine.
I didn't have to get new tubes, I had to replace the fuses. The back of the head is labeled with the correct ones, and I just picked them up from Amazon.
Yes, it has to be selectable to US power. I think that's only the 1959 and the 1987 at this time. A bummer, because at those crazy Thomann prices I'd have grabbed a JTM 45 and Silver Jubilee too within days of the 1959 showing up!

Jep, they've closed that loop hole. So i hope you all have friends in the Army/Navy/Marine/AirForce who serve in Europe and can buy it local and relay that stuff to the US.
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This is a huge bummer! I have a credit from Thomann as a result of mine being such a trainwreck when it showed up. I guess it doesn't *really* matter, since nothing else in the Marshall line has switchable power by default. I'd lie if I hadn't said that I was considering a 1974 and swapping out the power though. The1962 Bluesbreaker is less than half price from them. Weird though ,they don't show the 1974 on their page?
 

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Maybe you could try another retailer in Europ that ships to the US ...

Is that a real store? I don't mean to be harsh, but it looks like a fake site.
 


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