Marshall Head For Small Room

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  1. 05645

    05645 New Member

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    Good afternoon, group; I want to buy a marshall tube head for my 14 x 14 foot music/practice room; but I'm having trouble selecting a model that will break up at a lower volume for this size room. Right now I think it might be the JTM 45. I've played the origin 50, sounded a little "skinny" to me, not really impressed. I've played the DSL 40 combo, which sounded great, but I don't need another combo, I have a 4x12 marshall vietnam cabinet. The 1987x reissue sounds like an option as well if it's not too loud and clean at low volumes.
    Any suggestions from the group would be appreciated.
    Thx
     
  2. plexifier

    plexifier Active Member

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    Any non-master volume head, like a JTM45 or 1987 will be LOUD when overdriven. You would need an attenuator or install a PPIMV (Post PI Master Volume). Those amps sound great with a PPIMV but if you don't have any experience modding an amp you should probably stick with amps that have a master volume already (DSL, JVM, 2204, etc.).
     
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    Break up and 'saturated' amp at low volume requires electronic trickery -
    • Master volume [the JTM 45 nor the 1987 have those - but can be added]
    • or internal circuit tricks to emulate saturation
    • or OD/boost pedals to 'push' the amp into break up and saturation
    • or some form of attenuation.

    For volume control a closed back cab is a must in my opinion - which you have.

    Depending on where you live I'd recommend playing all the Marshall's and clones/copies you can at the volume you want at home. Find the one that gives you the tone you want. Due to the electronic trickery amp power doesn't matter as much as the internet AKA lunchbox fans will lead you to believe - so ignore wattage as you try out amps.

    Everyone laughs or thinks I'm full of shit when I say my favorite low volume [65dB] amp currently is a non master volume 1959 100 watt amp.

    So listen with your ears and not your eyes on your quest!

    Russ
     
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    Buy the DSL 20 head if you liked the way the 40 sounded. Throw a tube screamer in the loop and turn the volume all the way down and you'll get break at super low volume.
     
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    67Mopar Well-Known Member

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    Marshall 2550 Silver Jubilee w/4x12. Works for me. :)
     
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    Get the DSL 20HR head and then get a better cab. I highly recommend the Bogner 212C cab with Creamback 65s. I have loads of cabs and speakers and this one is my favorite for my low wattage amps.
     
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  8. 05645

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    Thanks, Russ, good and helpful info, just not any stores in my area with all those models, just GC and Sam Ash. I appreciate it
     
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    4x12 cab in a 14'x14' space?????
     
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  10. 05645

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    thats sounds like a good idea, thanks a bunch
     
  11. JeffMcLeod

    JeffMcLeod Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Try a DSL1HR. If it doesn't do the job, you can return it. The DSL20HR has the 10W mode.

    Anything beyond about 2 watts in a 14x14 room is going to blast your ears to smithereens, lol.
     
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  12. 05645

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    It came to me as a good deal with a vietnam solid state head, I have a Fender Deluxe Reverb and a Vox AC15 that I use these days, just trying to get the old plexi tone in this room!
     
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    Thanks, my hearing is bad enough already
     
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    If it's just jamming in the room (not with a drummer or anything), I think this is correct. Any of the 1-watters would be OK choices, though the NMV ones will still be pretty loud (100dB+).

    If it has to be NMV but doesn't have to be a Marshall (blasphemy, I know), look at a ZVEX Nano. It's like a tiny little Plexi!
     
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    Jr Deluxe Well-Known Member

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    You don't need a smaller amp. You need a bigger room.
     
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    that sounds great, I'm checking 'em out, thx
     
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    The origin 50h with an SD1 in front doesn’t sound (skinny) to me, and if money is not a problem the 1987xl is a bad ass amp, but loud !!:2c:
     
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    ain't that the truth, got a sledgehammer?
     
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    My Origin 50 is excellent and not skinny.
    I sold my JTM45 cuz the Origin sounded better to me.
    Use a good OD to control the volume and gain in any room size.
    And the Origin has lower power settings that sound better than any attenuator.
     
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    Do not forget Mini Jubilee. 20 watt amplifier with power reduction to 5 watt.
     

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