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Discussion in 'Marshall Amps' started by ken361, Oct 1, 2021.
Robbin Trower used the VM on the cleaner side then used his signature pedal to drive it more.
My tele sounds excellent with mid boost in fat thick tones on the higher gain side
EVH sounds great too greenbacks even better
My hack job my vids always have these highs I don't care for too much im using a old M audio interface
Wow, this thread really took off.
Very interesting to read all the different reactions to the VM circuit.
Yes! Thank you @Georgiatec .... It's never going to sound like a 2203/2204 or 1959/1987. It doesn't sound like a stock JTM45 either. It fills the gap between all these amps.
For me, the VM's strong suit is it's beautiful lead/solo sounds, which is exactly what it gets used for frequently here at "Trelly HQ". And it may surprise many to learn that I play it through an MF400 4x12 with G12K100s. Fantastic!
Humbuckers straight into the amp. HDR, mid boost in. Volume between about 5 to 7.
Sounds like a proper Marshall to me.
Sounds like how I dial my amps in .
Nice job Ken, great tone to boot.
Thanks much better live though.
Have to record the les Paul in low gain which is sweet and the higher gain mode
That is every bit what they were both marketed it as, it's right there in both their names. If the Origin just had one nice sound, at that price I would have kept it anyway. Neither of them had a sound I could live with. After that I just got a 2204. Problem solved.
That's not correct.They were not marketed as "plexi" type amps- i.e NMV 50/100 Watt heads.
They were marketed as a "Modded JTM 45", and the Origin as an "affordable Marshall that will do some classic style sounds along with some modern features"
Here is the page for Sweetwater and the Vintage Modern with all the marketing blurbs straight from Marshall. It's very clear exactly what it was being marketed as- a Super JTM45.
I've posted a few clips here on the forum to show just how close an Origin can get to a Plexi tonality. It's not perfect but it's definitely a classic Marshall tonality. It sounds more like a NMV 1987/1959 than a 2203/4 does (if you know what you are doing and get the right tubes and speakers working with it)
I'm not going to begrudge anyone who doesn't like either amp, but I made a point earlier in the thread, that many people for whatever reason got the wrong impression about the VM, and it wasn't Marshall's fault. This sounds like your experience. And being that a 2204 solved your problems, you didn't really want what the VM or a "plexi" NMV is selling. the JMP/JCM Master Volume amps don't sound anything like a 1959/1987 or a JTM45.
The cleans sounds are crazy good better than my fender. Lots of loud punchy clean headroom with a strat
I was waiting for you to get around to that.
great at bedroom levels
JTM 45 is a plexi, as is a 1987, 1959 or Major. And they don't sound like a JTM 45 either.
Of course a JTM45 has a plexiglass panel, but when the majority of guitar players are talking about a "plexi marshall" they aren't talking about the JTM 45. They are talking about the 1987/1959. Thus why I put "plexi" in quotes. It's like saying "greenback". There are a half a dozen types of greenbacks or more, but say "greenback" and people are assuming that one classic speaker- G12M25 75hz.
Not sure what you are trying to say otherwise about the tone of the Jtm 45 vs 1987 vs 1959 (or any of the MV amps). Of course they sound different...which is what I stated.
What’s the deal with Mathias always needing to have a smaller version of a classic model guitar? I’ve known about his undersized Gibson Explorer for a long time, but hadn’t heard about the Strat. Makes me wonder if there’s a mini Les Paul out there? I love those inlays on the Strat by the way!
Oh for Crissakes - okay - CLASSIC MARSHALL!!! ALRIGHT??? Now please just let it fucking go.