Jtm45 Bluebreaker Combo

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  1. bill bokey

    bill bokey Well-Known Member

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    20k wow beautiful old amp though. I just wonder where and how the Seller aquired that amp?? I bet someone will buy it.
     
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    Funny how these thin lip BBs still crop up to be sold as genuine pieces to be sold to the unwary.
     
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    MarshallDog Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    I don’t understand, looks pretty genuine to me.
     
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    The debate is whether any thin-lipped pin-stripe cloth ('series 2') Bluesbreakers are genuine ex-factory or just collections of bits of other Marshalls.
    This particular one is a later amp made to look like and earlier one:
    - the OT has numbers stamped on the end bell (so it is '67 at the very earliest and looks like a Drake 784-128 which means it has 3k4 primary for EL34s.
    -the PT is a Drake 1202-118 which is also '67 onwards
    -dual axial 32uF preamp can is typical '68
    - there is an inconsistency to the mica caps, odd snubber, unusual wire colour on the pots, brown paxolin selectors ('68 onwards)

    One or two of these features on a working/ serviced or lightly resorted amp is no big deal, but seeing them all together on one of the most faked amps in history at a high price tag has all sorts of alarm bells ringing.

    I hope that others, more expert than me, will chip in too, although here in classifieds it may not get the scrutiny .

    Have a read here - in the old plexipalace thread, read and feel it unwind!https://web.archive.org/web/2017090...t=109429&sid=e2821b310323a4259665aa9c4ac2c1bc
     
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    bill bokey Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for your input Neil. I thought it was a fake, too many (little) things don't look right.
    Thanks for the link, too bad I can only read the first page.
    Where do you suggest I post this ? Let's talk vintage ?
     
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    Dam man you know your stuff with old vintage amps! What would you say a decent price for this one would be considering all the questionable components? Just curious, thanks!
     
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    Shouldn't it have a tube rectifier as well?
     
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    It has (poorly lit picture of back panel) you can see the asbestos hat covered GZ34 in the corner.
     
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    Ah, yes, sorry, txs. looked at the wrong picture...
     
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    Neat looking amp. BTW ....what part of the amp does Thin Lipped refer to?
     
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    neikeel Well-Known Member

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    Earlier wide lip:[​IMG]
    Later and RI and 50th Anniversarty, thin lip:
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    Haha, I remember that thread well. Silverface came up with the most ridiculous made up back stories to illustrate why the amp was a total mish mash of bits, and could not grasp that they were all dead giveaways that it was a classic lashup!
     
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    That's why I would love to read the whole thread. Like a school book...
     

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