Jcm800 speaker recommendations

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  1. On_the_edge_of_time

    On_the_edge_of_time New Member

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    Looking for recommendations for speakers with a 1981 jcm800 2203 with el34’s, being pushed with a rat type pedal for some pretty high gain but still vintage(70’s/80’s) sound. Very thick and warm but won’t fart out when playing thrash type stuff. Guitar is a flying V with Wolfetone Marshallhead pickups. Will be putting the speakers in a Marshall 1960av 4x12. Some examples of some influences that I’m trying to blend together are : early Black Sabbath, early Metallica, Trouble, Bolt Thrower, Witchfinder general, Amebix, Sacrilege, Solstice, Discharge, Pink Fairies, Wicked Lady, Motorhead
     
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    SO the V30's didn't work for you? What was your take on them?
     
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    They’re too bright/harsh sounding for what I want
     
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    Kinkless Tetrode Well-Known Member

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    You don't want Greenbacks or GB voiced speakers then. The V30s have less high treble and less grit. I'd suggest G12-65s or equivalent.

    https://celestion.com/product/26/heritage_series_g1265/
     
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    Kinkless Tetrode Well-Known Member

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    The G12 Vintage in the 1960 AV cabs are the brightest version of vintage 30 family. The Mesa versions are warmer.
     
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    G12T75
     
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    yea, G12T75's would be the obvious choice, their scooped sounds compliments the mid-rangey JCM800.

    also Celestion Redbacks are darker, but you'd have a 600w cabinet.
     
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    You may want to check out the Lynchback. It's a high powered Greenback that can still be tighter.
     
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    If you decide on g12t75s then you can buy used ones for $400-500 if you look around. Maybe even trade your 1960av.
     
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    I'd try out the G12M65 Creamback or the G12H75 Creamback. (Which is a little brighter than the 65.) I like them a lot.
     
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    Vintage G12-65's and/or bass coned G12-80's would be a perfect fit and high watt, also. G12M Creambacks would also be a good suggestion.
     
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    Trapland Running Into Walls Silver Supporting Member

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    The G12-65 (NOT the creamback) is pretty much the go-to speaker for the JCM800 series and sounds wonderful. Chimey with no fizz or icepick, plenty of lows and just enough broad mid-scoop to compliment those mid-forward amps.
     
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    G12-65
    G12-80 vintage / G12H-80
    Mesa/Celestion MC-90 (another g12-80 cousin... which you can still get UK made new, Mesa even sells em retail)
     
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    Gunner64 Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Out of my stash of v30s, G12T75s, And lead coned G12 80's the G1280s win with my 2204s,.. not even close.
     
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    G12-65.
     
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    Yes no v30s with an 800
    65s yes, l have g12h100s which give me alot of power handling for detuned chunking with boosted lows. I already destroyed a few greenbacks​
     
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    I absolutely love the Celestion G12M65 Creambacks, they really make my JVM. As an experiment, I just bought reasonably new 4 G12T75 for $200.00 to try in my1960B style baltic birch cabinet. Their high end and very peaky upper mids made my JVM410H exceptionally noisy and want to feed back. It was a terrible combination. I can’t believe Marshall used those speakers for the design on of the JVM. Now I have a 1994 Fender Twin amp, which in my opinion is very dry sounding and not much in the upper mids and highs and that combination is fairly decent.
     
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    G12T75s work well with a 2203, though. There's the Paul Stanley Kiss tone right there. But I still prefer Greenbacks and Creambacks. I took four G12T75s out of my 1960A and replaced them with two Greenbacks and two Creambacks. The T75s are boxed up and stored in the top of a closet. Next I'll do the same treatment to my 1960B cabinet,
    but move T75s into another cabinet that currently has G12P80s in it, which I don't care much for.
     
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