How to reduce the loudness of pick attack noises?

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  1. BatmansMarshall

    BatmansMarshall Well-Known Member

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    Remove pick attack around 1kHz with EQ will do it but your tone alters with it.

    You will always expect some pick sounds with high gain distortion.

    One way to deal with it is to have your amp control loudness, not your guitar volume knob. Set that to about 5 or 6 out of 10 and turn your amp volume up instead of the gain for increases in volume.

    Pick attack sounds are not always unwanted. However, sometimes they can of course sound quite bad.
     
  2. soul_schizm

    soul_schizm New Member

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    Not laughing. More like nodding in agreement. I'm not plugging in my rig every time I have an idea and want to try it out.
     
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    Never stated what type of amp is being used............................
     
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    Probably easier to work on technique. Try picking harder and softer to see if that changes it either direction. Use a different pick angle, etc.
     
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    Sorry, me? I use two heads, an Engl Straight 100W and a Laney Ironheart 60W. The Engl is circa early '90s. IronHeart, 2010's. Both can produce this problem. I assume it can happen with just about anything if you set your sound up a certain way and combine that with a playing technique that emphasizes that scrape across the strings.
     
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    Thanks. I think most high gain amps can be dialed in to accentuate this noise but it shouldn't be overpowering everything else. I was curious what the OP was using.
     
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    I wouldn't hold my breath, thinking that the OP is still in the room...

    this was his last post:

    Delete account
     
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    I used to play with thin picks (1.0 or smaller) it used to be worse. I don't really ever have that issue anymore, I went to think picks and never turned back. I use a 2.75mm from V pick
     
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    It's not only the pick thickness, it's also the material. From experimenting with a bunch of them, Dunlop Tortex Flex has a more pronounced pick attack than regular Tortex Flex, and both have more than Ultex, and Celluloid has even less (but if you have a heavy right hand, you'll go through these super fast).
    All in all it's a matter of finding the right pick, working on your right hand control AND where you hit the string (relative to the neck-bridge axis).
     
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    If you play with a lot of gain/distortion, you're naturally going to hear some pick noise, even if you fingerpick you're going to hear something..When it comes to somebody like Santana (or anyone else, for that matter) he's usually playing with a band, which will cover most of the pick noise up, or at least make it less discernable.

    Me, I just use plain old medium-gauge plastic picks, Pickboys when I can find them, or else Fender mediums..Somebody mentioned thinner picks make more noise, that's been my experience as well.
     
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    Well, now that he's not here to defend himself.....

    He said "lead channel or distortion channel or what you guys called it," so I assume he's playing something all 10's across the board, with 2 tube screamers and a fuzz pedal in front of it, all dialed up maximum. How do I get rid of all this darn noise?
     
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    Thanks Dogs.
     
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    :shrug:

    yeah, IDK what his issue was. There was plenty of viable things to try suggested here.

    I think a compressor/limiter would have done the trick, just have the attack set quick & also the release quick. All it will do is soften peaks.

    Funny though, when I see some replies, they go against what my experience is. I find nylon to have a heavy attack noise. I also bought a set of carbon fiber, that shed quick & they make a string pulling noise, as the edge burrs up & catches/snags on the string.

    I keep coming back to the Clayton Acetal/Polymer
    picks. Not a brittle plastic, not too bendy, but not stiff either...

    the ones that look like this:

    s-l400.jpg
     
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    Tone controls on the amp as someone else said, also the tone on the guitar. Try turning the volume down on the guitar slightly.

    Pick softer.
     
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    He's possibly going through what looks like an Ax Fx, at the bottom left of the screen.

    I've always rated Slash's pick attack here...
    Doesn't compare with AFD material in anyway, but Slash's technique had improved by '92; even if the band had regressed and become bloated.
     
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    Have you tried ditching the pick and playing with your fingers?
     
  18. soul_schizm

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    Speaking for myself, yes I'll do that. But I do it more to fit the sound I want to get on a particular song or even a part of a song.
     

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