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How to make a brown sound

Discussion in 'Marshall Amps' started by lenheyvan, Oct 13, 2021 at 9:06 AM.

  1. Sapient

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    You looking for a booster?
     
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    ricksdisconnected Well-Known Member

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    what booster? a financial booster? yes.
     
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    ricksdisconnected Well-Known Member

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    brian is tight bro. loads of killer pedals.
     
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    No, a Spark.
     
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    If I was looking to buy an amp that's built by a small but known builder, pursuing the brown/plexi tone, I'd buy a Bray.

    For an amp that is more insane, more over the edge, more like, to give an example, something that has the aggressiveness of a mesa mark III blue stripe, but in the Marshall category, I'd go straight to a Hopkins.

    But I'm not in a position to just go out and buy custom amps at the moment. Any time I do that, something ALWAYS comes along, that's an emergency, that causes me to dip into my emergency funds. So I have to wait some more, and build up my discretionary fund to a higher level before I can buy something like that.
     
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    ricksdisconnected Well-Known Member

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    not in the cards for me just yet. to much ahead of it. one very bad damn yr for
    my camp this yr.
     
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    Just get close and play. It's been said a thousand times (more actually), even if you plugged straight into Eddies early rig, you wouldn't sound like him, and the tone would be different just due to playing/picking technique.
     
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    Want this in new condition:

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    best boost made imo.
     
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    ricksdisconnected Well-Known Member

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    im missing the joke i think lol.
    or its yet to be delivered one. :hmm:
     
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    PM where to send it and it b yours.

    If you want it.

    I've had it for about 5 years ...in a box. Tried a configuration once with it, but for my purposes it didn't work for me. Long story short I needed 4 channels in my amp and that was that.
     
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    explain your amp statement here. what happened?
     
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    Ever try a Bad Bob? They are made by Analog Man these days. They stay true to the circuit Robbie Wallace used, which itself is based on the old Jfet mu-amp design that so many copy.

    I have the two knob version with buffer that Robbie Wallace also came up with. It allows you to get a cleaner boost as it allows you to dial down any grit as you increase volume. They sound glorious through a tweed amp and tele players love 'em. I found it works great in other amps and with humbuckers too.


    Bad Bob Booster - Cunetto 51 Nocaster - Tweed Twin - YouTube

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    Two knob badbod2knob.jpg (the one I own)

    Mini badbobmini.jpg
     
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    Wow - that was like 2016. Long past it now. Lol. BUT, I tried to use it as another "channel" on top of the lead channel ...super drive. The problem was I still needed to do a double hop from clean to get to it. It got messy and I ended up with the boost on in the clean channel, which was a disaster ...live. I eventually wound up with my 410HJS that solved all my problems. I was a 4 channel dude: Clean, Tom Petty Dirty, Zep Dirty, REO Speedwagon Guitar Solo Dirty. There was no two ways about it either. I needed all those textures at a sing button click for the music I do.
     
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    *Sorry for the derail*

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    we went PM anyways to keep the thread on track. ISH.
     
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    :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

    I can't believe that either I or someone else hadn't mentioned this yet...

    Another big part of Eddie's sound is string gauge and tuning to E flat...sort of, though he wasn't always "in tune". I read an interview with him either in the late 80's or very early 90's where he even said there wasn't a tuner in his studio. He would tune by ear to himself and have Mike tune to him.

    A VAN HALEN 1 TONE SECRET! Hint... IT'S NOT THE GEAR! GUITAR LESSON - YouTube

    Why and How Eddie Van Halen Played Out of Tune - YouTube

    EVH Strings and Things | Project EVH

    Project EVH | Understanding the Brown sound is a huge resource.
     
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    You're right, tuning is also an important factor.

    When I play vanhalen, I also lower the first and second strings a bit.
     
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    The nearest I’ve got to it is with a guitar with a Seymour Duncan custom custom in the bridge position straight into a Friedman Runt 50 . This produced a spot on ‘ brown sound ‘ with no pedals or any other trickery , and at reasonable volume with no attenuation. There isn’t much else out there that can do that if there id good luck finding it .
     
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