Honeymanscott Pretenders Marshall Amp

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  1. randrewrussell

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    Ok trivia question for the experts. Here is a photo from December 1981 showing James Honeyman Scott's live amps. Does anyone here have any idea what year these amps are from based on the logo or general appearance. I had read and heard that he had modded 200 watt Marshall Majors that were modded by Pete Cornish. So any thoughts would be appreciated.
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    Hard to get a clear image on my phone here, but it Looks like JCM800's . Probably the same vintage as the photo.
     
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    Not the best pic for identifying amp model, but they don't look like Majors.
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    That would be my first guess as well .
     
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    From what I have read he used 3- 100w Super Leads, 1 playing and 2 spares, into 3 Boss pedals. OD, Chorus and Comp.
    She used a Fender Black face. Although not my thing, he is considered an excellent guitarist and song writer. He also played keyboards and some singing.
     
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    I would go with JCM 800 Model 1959's
     
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    I think you're right. On My fuzzy phone image I can kinda see a jumper on one of the heads.
     
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    James Honeyman-Scott was an excellent guitarist. He’d have sounded great through any amp. I thought I had read somewhere, eons ago, that he used a Super Lead 100, not a JCM 800?
     
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    Thank you for the analysis. Well I think that interview wherein he discussed his pedals and amps was conducted in late 1980 or early 1981. He later changed his sound a great deal by getting a Cornish pedal board. The amps do appear to be JCMs? based on the large logos? They don't appear to be Marshall Majors. I have seen here where you guys can tell a amp and cabinet just by the logo size or grill clothe and I thought I would let you have at it. I heard Jackson Brown purchased his amps when JHS passed.
     
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    Thanks that is a great pic and yes they appear to be jcm 800s and certainly not a Marshall Major. Clearly has rocker switches, large logo, any guess as to year? I assume 100 watt of course. The cabs from same year?
     
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    Super Lead is a name bestowed upon the 100w model 1959
    JCM 800 is a production series, like JMP
    JCM 800 is not a model of amplifier
    Both JMP and JCM 800 model 1959 ,bear the name Super Lead .....and are basically the same amp
     
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    don't confuse the Major, or the PIg, w/ the Marshall 2000...

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    which was a 200 watt amp. There's been discussion on this one here before. The image in the OP does not appear to have this amp.

    & to add, this was part of the JCM800 series...

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    a member on here has one, he posted a video, This is his. He modded it, since then, IIRC...

     
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    Thank you for clarifying that, I did realize that they were a production series but I thought that they were part of the model name designation, i.e. Marshall JCM 800 Super Lead 1959 etc.
    What do the numbers such as 2203 or 2204 stand for. I know one is a 100 watt and the other a 50 watt but do they refer to any other specific model info?
     
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    Wow I am learnging a lot from just this one question. Thanks so much for the info.
     
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    Marshall changed distributorship in 1981 .When they did that they killed off the JMP series to birth the JCM 800 series ....which was mostly cosmetic .The same amps were produced ,with a few new models ,like the channel switchers
    2203, 2204 are MODEL numbers as well as 1959 ,1992 ,1987

    2203 is 100w Master Volume

    2204 is 50w Master Volume

    THIS is a JMP 2203 , it's the same as a JCM 800 2203 ,except it's better , because it's mine and it's tuned ...........:lol:

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    Ok I happened to remember there was a live "Fridays" appearance back in 81 before half the band died from drug overdoses and sure enough there is on the stage what looks like a JCM and also next to it is a monster looking amp with a different cabinet. Could that be the Major? I think there are three songs they did that night for the show and though the Marshall logos are blacked out for some reason, there does appear to be huge amp with regular switches. If anyone here happens to review the videos please let me know.
     
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    I used to love FRIDAYS , used to watch it every week, because we had to stop playing at 10pm (Do you know where your kids are ? YES ,they're playin rock n roll in the basement !!!!)

    The 2 amps I could see at 1:00 are JMPs ,one with rocker switches and one with toggles ,but that's all I can ID



    Here's one with the late JMP backline .It is possible they had different amp stashes on different continents

     
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