Helix Be100 Model

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  1. saxon68

    saxon68 Well-Known Member

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    So I've been thinking about jumping into modeling now that they are sounding more and more like tube amps to my ears, and the last F/W added 2 new models, one being Mesa LoneStar and the other being the Friedman BE100. The BE just blows me away...

    I'm planning to grab the Helix in a couple weeks now.

     
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    Line 6 is a pretty impressive system....probably one of the best ones.
     
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    Yeah, I watched a few vids on the 2.50 updates...

    Damn... they've up'd their game.
     
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    Yeah they have. Then I went to rehearsal and cranked my amp. GAS for helix gone for now lol.
     
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    Sounds good. But, not a replacement for a BE100.
     
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    Yeah, now try to go home and try to get the sound of a real BE100 into a DAW... very frustrating when it keeps coming out sounding like a two-dimensional RAT pedal plugged into a clock radio.

    Digital Modeling rules for low volume at home playing and DAW recording.

    Save the big amps and vacuum valves for band practice and gigs.
     
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    So I pulled the trigger on the Helix floor unit.

    Looks like I can ditch my MS-3, my drop pedal and the pedalboard.

    I’ll use it live with my amp in 4 cable method, and pipe an output to FOH also. May look into getting a powered speaker, I’ve been seeing a lot of bands without amps on stage lately.

    It’s gonna let me record also, and I got a bundle that included the backpack at no extra cost.
     
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    I’ve been looking at these amongst others. Its probably the one that has everything I want.
    How are you finding it?

    So are you saying that you dont have to use the Digitech Drop, the Helix does the detuning as well as the Drop?
     
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    Mine will arrive Wednesday, I’ll let you know as soon as I try it. I did see a vid about it that looks promising:

     
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    Ok so from what I’ve tested it’s not perfect at polyphonic pitch drop, but close enough in a band mix to work for me, I only use it for one song.
    I might be hearing funky overtones because it’s not at full volume so could be my strings messing with my ears.
    I’ve setup 3 presets, basically as pedalboards, one per amp channel. Loving it. Each preset can have 8 snapshots which is basically the same preset with each effect having different settings or on/off.
    I’ll get into the recording stuff and look into trying it with the models for amps and cabs into a FRFR speaker, likely when I sell my MS-3.
     
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    @Australian i gigged it last night and the pitch drop was fine in band mix. Did the whole step drop for “bad girlfriend” and it was pretty dam awesome.
    My lead guitarist only drops his low E, but I drop the entire guitar as my part uses the high E and B for the verses so they’ve got to be dropped.
    I’m still gonna keep the drop pedal, they don’t sell for enough for me to be willing to ditch it.
    Boss MS-3 and the pedalboard are going up for local sale :)
    The sound guy says he’s seen a few bands who use just the Helix live and don’t even use amps, and that they always sound great, but not sure if I’m ready to do that extreme yet.
    I’m going to play with running it straight into my effects loop and take advantage of the modeling options.
    If our local sound guys were better at in ear I’d go ahead and ditch the amp/cab route likely.
    Work in progress :)
     

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