Gooped why ?

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  1. Drinkingdeath01

    Drinkingdeath01 Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    I get that people want to hide their mods but who does this anymore ? I'm not a tech so I'll ask you guys, was this ever acceptable? IDK, it just looks bad and its a huge turn off for me. I was gonna buy this amp but after seeing this I just want to move on.

    I will check out the amp first before completely writing it off but still, it just seems like a juvenile way of doing things.

    Amp in question is a Cameron modded Sovtek Mig 50 head.
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    Matthews Guitars Well-Known Member

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    Looks like a bird crapped in your amp. A big one.

    Trying to obscure your mod is lame enough, but when you can't even make the concealing silicone or epoxy or JB Weld looks even a little bit sculptured, regular, and professional, that's just DUMB.

    If I were to set out to hide a circuit from the world that I cooked up, I'd try to find the epoxy that you find on silver mica capacitors and use that as the encapsulant. That stuff is MEAN.
     
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    Drinkingdeath01 Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    My tech has been a friend for over 20 years now and I just couldn't bring myself to take this dumpster fire to him for any kind of repair. How is that stuff to remove ?
     
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    Adieu Well-Known Member

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    Is there possibly some engineering reason for this? Like keeping flimsy suspended components from shorting on each other? Or shielding of some kind?

    Or is this 100% about hiding the content?
     
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    This is a good question, I admit when I was young and nieve I thought i was brilliant and applied silicone on a few components on my Vox V846 hoping to eliminate an issue I was chasing. I want to slap my younger self to this day, I have the pedal working great but now that I'm older and more experienced I'd like to tidy it up but this goop of silicone is a bitch to remove... Young and dumb.

    Hiding a circuit is kinda silly but I kinda get it but still...
     
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    StingRay85 Well-Known Member

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    I've seen people using markers to remove the color code of resistors, but this is next level
     
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    Micky Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    Sometimes it is necessary to physically secure components to something to isolate from vibrations, especially in combo amps.

    But that one is just fugly.
     
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    MarshallDog Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    That’s just disgusting! If someone ever did that to my amp, he’d have that amp stuck some where’s but then again I would make sure I new my Tech and he would mot slop it up like that!
     
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    I'm pretty sure they do it to hide certain parts of "their work"...irony is, many have borrowed elements of "work" from dudes that have come before them anyway. Stranger yet, even if you put your own spin on components that makes an amp sound different, it still smacks a little of arrogance..."yeah, I just know my idea here is gonna sound amazeballs to everyone so I better hide what I came up with". Not saying that's wrong, just that some do it while plenty of great, more humble builders don't (Splawn, Friedman, Soldano, etc).
     
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    I use to have a couple of Klon Pedals that had Goop (epoxy resin) which can be broken down, heat gun and solutions but experience taking it off carefully is important. there many YouTube videos showing how to do it, I've taken off Epoxy from PCB's with a heat gun cleanly where I can see the values or I can measure.

    The Cameron modded Marshall's I've had "didn't have epoxy" covering components. I really don't see the advantages as most people can take it off, maybe for some it's a way to know if someone else "Modified the original work"......
     
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    A paranoid schizophrenic does that on a steady diet of nicotine/crack & frozen pizza.
     
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    Looks like Billy Blades work!
     
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    Mark Cameron has a long history of doing things the wrong way.
     
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    :funny::rofl:But true!
     
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    I’ve never played a Cameron or a clone of one. Are they that amazing in person cause the ones I’ve heard are ok. The ceriatone molecular is cool which is an atomic clone. The others are just kind of overdriven flavors of Marshall. I think John Sykes boogie tone on 87’ white snake is better.
     
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    Trapping excess heat in a already HOT easy bake oven environment, never made any sense to me. Unless something is used in the harshest of road touring environments, there is no need for Goop-A-Palooza.

    Hiding a circuit or mod is just silly. There are few if any mysteries left in the analog world.
     
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    It an effort to prevent people like Fortin from copying your work like he does other products. That said all of the Friedman schematics are out in the wild and his business is good. The biggest issue is gooping those electrolytic. Klon comes to mind too. Lots of people profiting of doing 1:1 clones without any of their own twist.
     
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    Not if it works correctly!
     

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