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Gibson Les Paul Classic serial number weird, no made in usa stamp

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  1. Kolanti

    Kolanti Well-Known Member

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    So I was browsing a site in my country that it is to sell used gear and I found a Les Paul Classic apparently from 2003 but with no stamp of Made in USA and the serial number looks odd.

    Gibson said that 2000-2005 the serial numbers started with 00 and from 2005-2010 with 05.

    Now this Les Paul starts with 03.

    Do you know anything about these les pauls?

    https://smart.noiz.gr/details.php?id=484652 here is the link, ignore the writing just check the photos.
     
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    fitz288 Well, Known Member Silver Supporting Member

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    Just 6 digits is odd, in and of itself, i think.
    How To Verify Authentic Gibson Serial Numbers
    Serial # look-up site results in "error".
    Gibson Serial Number Lookup - Find Out When Your Guitar Was Made (zinginstruments.com)
    I'd ask for more info from seller before making an offer.
    If it's fake, they won't have a good answer.
     
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  3. Kolanti

    Kolanti Well-Known Member

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    i will ask him for the papers that come with the guitar, i imagine he has them.

    from the photos did you noticed anything odd lets on the paint or the headstock?
     
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    pedecamp Well-Known Member

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    Whats the return policy at the store? I think the guitar is legit, I looked up a bunch on reverb and they look just like it. The only thing I'd be aware of is a guitar that age may have excessive fret wear.

    Heres one on reverb in the US for example:

    https://reverb.com/item/40371731-gibson-les-paul-classic-2001-2008-vintage-sunburst
     
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    fitz288 Well, Known Member Silver Supporting Member

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    Nothing looks odd other than the serial number.
    If it's a fake, it's a good fake.
     
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    El Gringo Well-Known Member

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    Very legit . As i have the same model and the font and the serial # configuration is correct and legit !
     
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    Kolanti Well-Known Member

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    so what is happening with the serial? because in the particular guitar starts with 03 instead of 00 or 05
     
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    Looks like a Memphis shop serial number, but I don't know if they made LPs there.
    The S/N on my 2014 ES-339 was somewhat similar except started with ME ######. It did not have "Made In USA" stamped on it.
     
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    fitz288 Well, Known Member Silver Supporting Member

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    If this is custom shop, from the link I posted above, this would make sense.

    YYRRRM
    Y is the production year
    RRR(R) indicates the guitar's place in production for that year.
    M is the model being reissued
    Reissue model codes:
    1= SG Custom and Special
    2= SG Standard
    3= 1963 Firebird 1
    4= 1964 Firebird III
    5= 1965 Firebird V & VII
    8= 1968 Les Paul Custom

    So "030728" would be:
    Year "03"
    Production # "072"
    Model "8" = LP Custom
     
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    pedecamp Well-Known Member

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    The serial number is good, I have a 6 digit serial on my LP. Buy it, its a good looking guitar!
     
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    El Gringo Well-Known Member

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    The guitar is a 2003 model as the serial begins with 03 which means the year it was built . If the guitar was a 2000 model it then would have 00 at the start of the serial and the same for 05 which would be a 2005 . Next would be the day it was built -072 would mean the 72 day of the year which would be March 12th , and lastly the last digits indicate the number in product for the model year -8. There was no made in the USA Stamp mark as this model was a nod to the 1960 model Les Paul , with the slim taper neck and the snot green inlays on the fingerboard , along with the single ring Kluson tuners . Note the Made in USA Stamp did re appear in 2007 on the Les Paul Classic model . Also If I have made a mistake fellow forum members please correct me .
     
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