G12T-75 dating help

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  1. Handel85

    Handel85 New Member

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    Hey guys,

    Got this recently to improve my metal tone for my DSL40 and I was curious what year it was made. I tried using the date codes available online but struggled to correctly identify the year with certainty. Thanks!
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    Looks like June 3rd 2010 to me according to the Celestion site.

    "Date codes from 1992 to 2014 are written in the form: Day/Month/Year. For example: 29EJ = 29th May 1999"
     
  3. andrus108

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    To me it looks like GY, which would mean July 1990. This sticker style was used from '88 or '89 until '91, when they switched to the design we know now. This T75 already has the modern 'hated' sound, but at the same time it's got 30 years of playing on it.

    I have a pair of these from '91, and they won over a pair of vintage G12-65s, white label T75s and late 70's G12M Blackbacks. My suggestion is to EQ your amp zero treble, max mids, and zero bass, and tweak from there, instead of setting everything at noon.
     
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    Yeah I think you are right. That does look older than 2010.
     
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    thanks for the very helpful feedback and date assistance fellas. much appreciated. The seller informed me this was taken from a Marshall 1960B. I was hoping it was an older model, and while not an 80s G12T-75, I'm glad to hear this now confirmed 1990's G12-T75 won over the vintage G12-65s and white label T75s and 70s G12M Blackbacks shootout @andrus108 ! I believe this is UK made too and I'm hoping that may contribute positively to the overall sound. But I'll let you guys weigh in on that as I'm not that well versed in the difference, as it could be negligible.
     
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    I have both 80s and 90s T75s. I can't tell ANY difference in their sound. Near as I can determine, they never changed anything about them but the label at some point.

    I'll sell a quad (four of them) to anybody who wants them. Your pick, 80s or 90s. I've got way more than I have any use for, being a Greenback/Blackback/Creamback guy, myself.
     
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    Side note. I found the UK made Vintage 30 to be a better fit for my DSL40C BUT I live on the Classic Channel Green.
     
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    I’ve got the DSL40CR and I’m hoping this speaker will help me capture the tone I’m searching for. Going for that neoclassical sound on a budget
     
  9. VladSRB

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    Those are surely from 90s
    Great speakers, I asume they are broken in well
    You cant go wrong with T75
    Congrats on your purchase
     
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    Yeah that's a 1990 date code. I need to update my date codes page and add some better examples from that period.

    Sometimes confusing trying to figure out if it's a 'V' or a 'Y' but for most of 1987 the date code and model number were not printed all in one line like that, and when they were the two digit inspection number is at the end. In 1990 it tends to be MYDD / inspection number / T code. At least judging by the photos I've got here.
     
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  11. andrus108

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    But by 80's T75s you mean with the sticker like OP's, or the white label like G12-65? The white label T75s from 1987 I had were completely different from the '91 units like above, but identical to G12-65s (like a slight variation of those, put both in a 4x12 and the sound was uniform).

    If you live in EU, I might be interested in a couple if it's the Power label like above.
     
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    Agree... I have 75's from '87 and had 75's from the late 90's and there was a big difference between the two. I honestly could not get rid of late 90's one quick enough. Some people love them for what they are though. 65's are my favorite all time speaker so the older 75's work for me.
     
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    Well, since you asked for G12T-75 dating help, my first thought is that G12T-75 is a strange name for a girl.
    Still, may I suggest that chocolates and flowers usually get you off to a good start?

    ... Sorry, I couldn't resist. ;)
     
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    well, she's an android with a particular taste. Depending on the year she was made, she could be programmed to be somewhat warm and reserved with a nice middle ground balance and a little feisty punch, or shrill and blunt. I need to prepare before I make my first move :fingersx:
     
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    Lol, nice!
     
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    Late 80s early 90s badging, Made in UK
     
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    I figure these to be the same speakers as the OP, just a year earlier 3-7-89? (CX7 )
     

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    Nope, yours is so called 'white label', and should sound closer to G12-65s.

    Unless, being so close in dates, there is an overlap; using old stickers on new parts, or vice versa....
     
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    "G12T-75 dating help"

    Yeah, if I were an amp, I'd date that speaker.
     
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    Were they the same speaker model though? Did they have the same T number?

    A different label design is usually just a different label design, and not usually an indication that they have changed something about the speaker itself.
     
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