Friend wants to sell me his 1987x ? Or is the SC20H better choice?

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  1. DreamerDeceiver

    DreamerDeceiver Well-Known Member

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    A buddy wants to sell his reisssue 1987x. 50 w
    I can get it on the payment plan if I really want it, and also get it for around $1500.

    I know what they go for new and used, this head is flawless, my buddy is ridiculous with everything he owns...care wise. Im not nearly the player he is, but man he makes this amp scream. Scream it does!

    For me Id really prefer a MV amp , however..........the price/condition seems hard to beat.
    So, other than having to use an attenuator with this amp, are there any downfalls -bad reviews- mechanical issues that are also inherent with this model?
    Pros and cons:
    RIx vs original ?
     
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    fitz288 Well-Known Yinzer Gold Supporting Member

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    Take it for a test drive through your cabs.
    You might not have a choice to make... :D
     
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    Funny you say that.
    My 800 cab is his old cab lol
    He has the other half of the 88 Jcm 800. I have his A cab, he still has the B cab.
    He makes that 50w head sound sofaking loud its almost too much for me to bear. Even attenuated down, its still way loud, even down lower, which isnt really low at all. He makes it sound great, me not so much. Hopefully I get better , just to make it useful. Are the RIx UK or nam?
    They are definitely bright amps .
     
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    It has a loop so you can at least drop the level from the preamp if you don’t want to mod it.
     
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    Best Marshall amp I've ever owned. Not a damn thing wrong with them as long as you can turn it up enough to give up the goods, and when you do so they are glorious.

    If you cannot turn it up, iI don't see the point. Sure it has some great lower volume clean tones, but I'm not into using such things as a pedal platform. Makes absolutely 0% sense to me having a Marshall and getting all your drive from a pedal because you cannot get any volume on it. It's like going to the best steakhouse in the country and ordering a hot dog off the kid's menu.
     
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    new it is 1500 euro here in europe... and you need an attenuator. For me personally, without an attenuator, it would be a boat ancor.
     
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    With a good attenuator and a good OD it's a killer amp. By itself loud enough it's good too but an OD kicks it in the ass. Solidly built, simple yet very effective. I love mine.
     
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    The NMV Marshalls have their own sound - if that's the sound you want go for it. I have a 1959x and a 1987 a friend built to 1973 spec with a PPIMV and it's currently #1 in the rotation. If you're looking for more gain / lower volumes there are other options.

    Russ
     
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    They def have the potential to rip.I fought a bit with mine.Solid amp built like a tank.It eventually was sold and I bought a Ceriatone version that sounds a lot better and has turret board construction for $1100 new.
     
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    I dont want to ever hear myself that loud, nor do my neighbors. I dont think I could get it low enough to achieve any good tone naturally . You guys are correct, ....its a waste for me .

    This is why I ask,......
    Knowing that Im a low volume player, it just doesnt make sense .
    Not that I can really afford it at the moment ;/

    Changing gears then,
    Perhaps I could finance the SC20h ?:D
    Every vid I watch , that thing sounds more my speed. Same price too.

    This guy makes the SC20 sound more to my liking.
    Start at 1:00
     
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    yeah Im all over the place now.
    Not gonna start a new thread to talk about this one instead . SC20H
     
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    fitz288 Well-Known Yinzer Gold Supporting Member

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    If you're on a budget, and don't want to go the Origin/DSL route, if you can find a Haze15, that amp gets some GREAT classic Marshall grunch for a couple hundred bucks.
     
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    Just change the title every time your leaning towards one. :)
     
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    SC20 is a great amp.
    I still like to push it loudish to get good tones though. Can get really nice tones quietly, but I'm more a MV up pre gain down sort of guy.
    For my quiet times I use my ac15. Cracking amp at low volumes.
     
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    If volume is an issue it may end up being a bit of a pain in the ass (unless modded with a master volume, attenuator, or if you don't mind using distortion pedals...)
     
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    Buy it and put a LarMar PPIMV on the back, I have one in my 1959 and can get good tones at any volume, no attenuator needed!

    Dude should come down on the price and not charge a friend covid prices! I got one right before covid for $1K, that was the going rate.
     
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    Let me point out a couple of things that I would consider important in making a decision between these two amps.

    First of all, the 1987X is built to a bit higher standard. For example, it's tubes are mounted to the chassis whereas the sc20 and sv20 have the tubes mounted to the PCB boards.

    Secondly, if you decide on the 1987X you can send it to any number of good amp techs to have a master volume installed and then you will have an amp that is just as versatile as the sc20 and also has more girth and a "bigger" sound at similar volume levels. (I recommend purchasing the 1987X and sending it to David Hopkins @NewReligion for his Pandora mods. Having done that, you would have what I consider to be one of the best rock and metal amps out there)

    And I could be completely off base on this, but I think you would get more return on your money on the 1987 if you ever need to sell it

    Anyway just a few thoughts
     
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    I agree with this post, plus my favorite amp of all time is the 1987.
    Thanks
    Mitch
     
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    Some people like 'em, some don't. For me, the 1987 can't touch the JTM45.

    If you want a JVM. buy a JVM.
     
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    I love JTM45s too but the OP is asking about the 1987x.

    and what does the JVM have to do with anything?
     

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