Fender Bassbreaker 30R smokes DSL40CR?

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  1. cspencer

    cspencer Active Member Gold Supporting Member

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    A lot of videos saying Bassbreaker 30R is the better than DSL40CR. What you do think?

     
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    Chris-in-LA Well-Known Member

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    On my iPad they sound very similar. Not sure if one is that much better than the other, they both rock.
     
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    scozz Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Similar tones, I like the Marshall better. I think it has more definition than the Fender.

    I find it curious though that this is a Fender trying to sound like a Marshall,....not a Marshall trying to sound like a Fender.
     
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    Not bad. Anyone works if you can play.
     
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    Trelwheen Well-Blown Member Double Platinum Supporting Member

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    I've got a DSL40 and a Bassbreaker 15.

    The BB is a bit darker and less fizzy. The 15 has EL84 power tubes so it's less of an apples to apples comparison than with the 30. But if I had to pick one for a grab n go amp it would probably be the BB. It just has a more pleasant personality
     
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    Mitchell Pearrow Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    Being a Marshall fan, I will just say I have no dog in this fight !!
     
  7. cspencer

    cspencer Active Member Gold Supporting Member

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    The BB doesn't have a master volume. Looks like it must be cranked to get to high gain. Is that a problem playing at home? Another thing is the BB doesn't have half power. But the BB sure looks tempting.
     
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    Kim Lucky Day Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    I have the BB30, it is an awesome amp. It has separate volume and gain controls so the volume acts as a master volume. You can get some awesome tones at whisper levels. I've never tried it but I've heard that this isn't an amp that overdrives by cranking the volume. At least not like a Marshall would.

    One other thing that is awesome about this amp is the independent tone controls on each channel (clean vs dirty). You can set up a pedal to get a light crunch tone on the clean channel, then switch to dirty (and bump up volume) to get great solo tones. It also has a 3rd gain stage for extra distortion, although I don't use it very often.

    I'm a Marshall guy but this amp does so much very well, it's well worth a look. When it came out, there was virtually zero info on it so I really went out on a limb buying it but very glad I did.
     
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    marshallmellowed Well-Known Member

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    The BB seemed to be dialed with a lot more treble in that video. Didn't hear anything special from the BB, but then again, nothing special from the DSL either. Personal preference for those looking to buy either.
     
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    Matt_Krush Well-Known Member

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    Did they finally add an effects loop?
    When they came out, only the 7watter had one.

    So if the 30 doesn't have one, I don't even need to hear the tone...Marshall.
     
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    Trelwheen Well-Blown Member Double Platinum Supporting Member

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    Bassbreakers have a master volume. Also three different switchable voicings...clean, classic and modern. You can get clean to over the top drive at any volume.
     
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    Bass breaker is muddy sounding where it should be cleaner . If I was going to ever do another EL84 ( I own 2) I would do the Marshall 18w clone . That being said it is simple to use the same transformers and use 6v6 with miner changes.
    A proper fender should have 6l6 tubes imho.
    The fender preceded the Marshall .
     
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    cspencer Active Member Gold Supporting Member

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    The BB30R has an effects loop. I love Fender, Vox and Marshall amps. The thing that got me interested in the BB30R was the clean Fender sound and Voxy dirt. The DSL40CR has gain/volume on each channel plus 2 master volumes. I know that the BB is unlike, say, the JTM45 where you need to crank up to get that sweet tone (which the DSL will never get :(). What I'm trying to figure out is whether the BB can do what the DSL can. For instance, volume and gain at 10-12 o'clock and if you're playing at night, the master volume can go as low as 8-9 0'clock. The BB30R makes me want to jump up and buy it. Now I'm thinking maybe just get a BOSS RV-6 pedal for the DSL. BTW, anyone using reverb pedal with the DSL?
     
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    Yep the BB 15 is a dark amp and is capable of becoming muddy. If not dialed in properly.

    I don't think either the BB or the DSL are in the same league as the 1974.
     
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    If you put the same tubes in both amps, and played both through the same speaker, then it would be a fair comparison.
    There are too many large differences in tubes and speakers to make a level playing field.
    A closed back is always going to have a lot more bass than an open back combo amp.
     
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    I have to respectfully disagree. The idea is to compare two amps and how they come from the factory should be part of the comparison. Different tubes, speakers, chassis should all be included.

    Your argument would be the same as saying if you made the DSL a head, changed the transformers, tubes and boards, then it would be a fair comparison to a JCM800.

    I think you need to keep the amps stock so the purchaser knows what they’re getting out of the box.
     
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    cspencer Active Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Hi KraftyBob,
    The reviewer in the video swapped out the DSL speaker. He said that upfront so viewers won't be deceived. So the DSL speaker wasn't stock.
     
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    Looking for something I don't remember what.
    So you could walk out of the room with either for nothing, which one would you take?
    Too late, I already took the Marshall. :cool:
     
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    cspencer Active Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Good one :cheers:
     
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    I thought the Fender sounded good and I love my DSL. It's also cheap and I suspect simpler to use than the DSL - no 6 button footswitch needed. I've never owned a Fender amp so I probably would still have chosen the Marshall. Fender have tried to horn in on Marshall territory before with the supersonic but I think this is a much better attempt.
     
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