Do you Top-Wrap your Strings?

Discussion in 'The Tone Zone' started by Gianni, Apr 18, 2015.

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Do you Top-Wrap your Strings?

  1. Yes. Gives me more sustain.

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  2. Yes. Bending feels easier.

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  3. Yes. There’s a difference in both sustain and feel.

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  4. Yes. Just because I like the look.

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  5. No. Tried it, but no difference in sustain or feel.

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    21.7%
  6. No. I don’t like the look.

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  7. Never tried it, but I might.

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    41.3%
  1. Gianni

    Gianni Well-Known Member

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    Some players with stopbar-tailpiece-equipped guitars claim that screwing the tailpiece all the way down against the body, due to better transfer of string energy to the body and back, results in increased sustain and bottom end. When this is done, however, the strings end up touching the back of the bridge, especially when this is a Nashville tune-o-matic one, which is something many luthiers and guitar techs advise against, so, to avoid this, they top-wrap their strings.

    Furthermore, top-wrapping is reported to have the additional benefit of making strings feel slinkier while bending, by reducing the string break-angle at the saddles, protecting also against actual string breakage, and offering a more comfortable place to rest one’s hand while playing or palm-muting.

    The only apparent disadvantage of top-wrapping is that if you decide to go back to normal stringing after a while, you will probably need a new tailpiece, without string marks.

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    I top wrap my LPJ, for the look, but Gibson makes those stopbars adjustable, to accommodate different taste in "feel".
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    I have noticed that some strings are wound a bit rougher at the ball end and the windings, over the top of the bar, can be very sharp on the right palm.
    I use Dan Erlewine's trick to get a little space.
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    I used to do it on my Epi LP and oscar schmidt 335.

    My only issue with it was that it was cutting holes in the tailpieces and twisting it too.

    I think just raising the tailpiece up may be a better long term option.
     
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    Again, not enough choices.
     
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    What other choices would you like to have seen?

    What do you mean by “Again”?
     
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    Not anymore!

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    MonstersOfTheMidway Well-Known Member

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    I didn't vote because there are multiple reasons why I don't run the string over the stop bar.

    Short answer: no

    Longer answer: I don't think it made bending easier, and I don't think it increased sustain, and I didn't hear any appreciable and beneficial difference regarding tone, and I thought it ruined the top of the stop bar, and I think it warped/bent the stop bar a little.

    But if others do it and find it helpful, that's fine too.
     
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    Jimmy Page did this..
    Never done it, might try it now after reading this
     
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    I top wrap every 2nd string I found it makes me last longer in bed.
     
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    Now I see what Micky meant when he said there were not enough poll choices. :D

     
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    I do, but not for playability reasons. I just prefer having the bar cranked all the way down against the body.
     
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    Thank you for the detailed response! :yesway:

    If I had written what you wrote in your “Longer answer”, I would have chosen response no.5 (No. Tried it, but no difference in sustain or feel.), and added anything else I wanted to say in a post, like you did.
     
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    All the polls as of late re-hash the same old arguments we have had here for years.
    mtm is the king of polls as of late, and is especially fond of the 2-option answer.

    'Rats Ass' is an option that comes to mind, not that it would fit here, but would fit nicely in most other polls. In fact, every new poll here from now on should include that option, or at least one that would better fit 'This is a dumb-ass question and to answer any other choice here here would acknowledge that I too, am a dumb-ass for attempting to answer somewhat honestly' answer.
     
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    So, frustration mainly caused by other polls/threads you expressed in this one.

    I did read your response soon after you posted it. To know the answer you would have got at the time you just need to read it again, this time as if you were the one receiving it. After deciding to sleep on it, here’s what I have to say:

    • What may be the “same old argument” to you is something new to me, and others apparently. (See last poll choice)

    • Since the last time top-wrapping was discussed, new members have joined the forum, while some of the older ones may have actually tried it for the first time.

    • Whenever I see a “same old” thread topic I feel happy, as it gives me the opportunity to be helpful, which is not something that happens very often. If I were you, rather than frustrated, I’d be happy the whole time I was logged in.

    • The purpose of the poll in this thread is for older members, rather than have to write the "same old" response all over again, to be able to offer their help with a simple ‘click’.

    So, as I, still, do give a “rat’s ass” about your opinion, how about a ‘click’?
     
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    No.



    Slash doesn't. If you don't believe me, check out MTV World Stage at the Palace Theatre in Melbourne Australia (with Myles Kennedy). He has as much sustain as I'd ever want/need. Great show!

    I actually prefer Page to Slash. I was surprised when I saw in the above show that Slash doesn't, because beforehand, I just expected he would.


    I don't because I don't hear or feel enough difference. Although, I'm a cranky old man, so what do I know anyways .....
     
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    Wait, does that actually work?

    Dammit, now I'm going to have to top wrap all my guitars again. :mad:
     
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    Oh good lord.
     
  20. MonstersOfTheMidway

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    It's all good, Gianni.

    Just to be clear, I like the method you used to gauge opinions (i.e. using the poll feature). Polls can sometimes be difficult to create, so I applaud your efforts.:applause:

    Next time, you could try stating the same the question but offer only two possible responses: yes or no. That's it. Don't include reasons with the "yes" vote or "no" vote. Then, in your first post, you can invite people to explain their responses in a post if they wish (my gut feeling is that people will explain their responses anyways, so there's no reason to offer more than a simple "yes" or "no" poll response.

    I've seen the whole top-wrap discussion before in other forms, but seeing it again doesn't bother me. People change, feelings change, thoughts change, and new members are added.

    Good effort. :thumbs:
     
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