Disapponted with Marshall MG30GFX

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Jethro Rocker... you seem to really like the Kantana amp. Are there different model Kantanas?
I have never tried one, but you are churning my interest.
Roland/Boss guitar amp products I have tried in the past he all sounded horrible to me. Roland makes good keyboards and other digital stuff.
Boss makes good peadls etc.

Can you dscribe some of the tones I could expect to get from a Katana or what you like about the amp?
I would like to be open minded and maybe get into a Katana.

Thanks for your input.
 

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Which Katanamodel would you reccomend?
Thanks
 

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I had an 8100 and although the overdrive channel sounded really nice the 100w SS power section was impotent, but if that works for ya.............
 

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Jethro Rocker... you seem to really like the Kantana amp. Are there different model Kantanas?
I have never tried one, but you are churning my interest.
Roland/Boss guitar amp products I have tried in the past he all sounded horrible to me. Roland makes good keyboards and other digital stuff.
Boss makes good peadls etc.

Can you dscribe some of the tones I could expect to get from a Katana or what you like about the amp?
I would like to be open minded and maybe get into a Katana.

Thanks for your input.
Firstly, an AVT would be way better than MG IMO.
The Katana is NOT a tube amp. I was after something small, light versatile that sounded good for jamming. I don't want to have to haul my 6101 30th anniversary up there all the time. Working on songs for maybe 2 hrs is a waste to me to haul a big 2x12 combo or worse yet, a head and 2x12. If they had a generic everyone can use it cab there, I would bring just a head.

I go for hot rodded 800 at minimum for distortion tones and up from there. An MG, which I considered, has clean n dirty, I see the new ones have presets. I use the Katana (I have the new 100 watt version but only cause it has 4 presets at once) like any other amp. Pick a mode, usually Crunch which gets quite heavy or Brown or Lead. Set the controls on panel like any othet amp.
Then I use presets for anything different I might require mid song - clean, solo (louder) and saturated solo (louder).
Simply use footswitch to switch feom panel layout to say Clean amd back. Then to Solo. Etc. Channels are presets. Panel reverts to amp settings on the panel. Ch1 is clean, 2 is solo, 4 is saturated solo, etc. 2 banks of those. Second bank is similar but acoustic, solo amd some effects solo modes.

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Effects are built in amd can be accessed via footswitch or programmed into a preset. Using a computer you can set nearly any parameter and also save your presets to reload if required.

You might think it sounds like ass, I dunno. It is not a tube amp, I don't expect it to be. The 50 cannot use the nice 6 button footswitch either.
I can see of I have any live recordings from up there using it. Depemds on your style too. I am not after ACDC tones, I want heavier for the most part. Apparently a speaker change can help but haven't seen the need.
 

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You wanted marshall tone out of a SS amp, sorry it's just not gonna happen. Looks like your ears are telling you it's time for a tube amp

I really just wanted the new MG30GFX to sound as good as my little MG15DFX, just with presets. I would have been totally happy!

Thanks for the other suggestions, I will start researching those!
 

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Firstly I just wanted an amp that was small and SS with some options, I don't need it to try and emulate XYZ amp.

Secondly, I know there are physical knobs. They aren't necessarily showing you exactly where the patch is, that is displayed on the LCD - NOT knob position. If I want to lower gain a bit on a patch at a band rehearsal ( I had the 50) and turn it down a touch, when I switch presets to get a solo sound and back again, gain will be where it was set previously. So NOW I have to overwrite the existing patch or save as a new one.

On the fly? At a band practice??? Renaming the preset with a rotary dial for letters???

Katana sounds very good, doesn't matter what amps, they don't list specific amps it is modeling and I can just use the Panel setting and run it like any other amp. Lower the gain, keep playing. Go to a preset for solo. Go back to panel and it is as the knobs show. All on footswitch. The CODE literally needs every single tone you want to use as a preset.
Not convenient at all.
As for phone apps, well, I am never gonna dig my phone out at a band practice and start farting around to get my amp set.
Nope.
I am trying to play guitar during all this.

Small non-tube options and cheap: Peavey Vypyr
 

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Yes, I know it is solid state. It looks like the 100 watt version is more versitile using the footswitch. Is the footswtch included when purchasing new? Do I get the same features getting into the 100 watt head?

Do you know how different the Artist version is from the rest of the Katanas?
The Artist write up states that it has 10 amp selection vs the 100 or 50 watt Katanas having 5 amp selection.
Sorry for all the questions, but of all the amps I have tried and used, this one I have not had a close look at.

I like heavier sounds, metal, hi gain etc. I guess I gravitate to a creamier tone vs a scratchy or shrill tone that most Fender hi gain channels produce.
It is nice to have full tone, as dark sounding amps lack tone.

At this point, I am curious to see if the Katana produces tones I don't have with the amps I already have.
Thanks fo your input.
Any other comments are welcome as I contemplate, Katana or no Katana, and which one.
 

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Yes, I know it is solid state. It looks like the 100 watt version is more versitile using the footswitch. Is the footswtch included when purchasing new? Do I get the same features getting into the 100 watt head?

Do you know how different the Artist version is from the rest of the Katanas?
The Artist write up states that it has 10 amp selection vs the 100 or 50 watt Katanas having 5 amp selection.
Sorry for all the questions, but of all the amps I have tried and used, this one I have not had a close look at.

I like heavier sounds, metal, hi gain etc. I guess I gravitate to a creamier tone vs a scratchy or shrill tone that most Fender hi gain channels produce.
It is nice to have full tone, as dark sounding amps lack tone.

At this point, I am curious to see if the Katana produces tones I don't have with the amps I already have.
Thanks fo your input.
Any other comments are welcome as I contemplate, Katana or no Katana, and which one.
The 100 watts should all be the same. Switch is extra here. May want to check with your dealer. I never looked at the Artsist, I don't need a whole bunch more settings. Each of the 5 amps also has an Alternative tone mode for a total of 10. Don't even uee half of them!

I don't find it overly harsh, I think the Artist has a different speaker?? An open back small combo won't have gut crunching lows to begin with.
You have to try one. I can't make that decision dor anyone else!! I will look through some recordings to see if I have anything that might fit the bill.
 

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Same, got rid of the 30, and got the 15, was puzzled at the difference.
 

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IDK if the CFX is the same as the DFX?

I think they used some modeling in the chip, maybe...

Not sure what the difference would be to the FX or the GFX...
 

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And you expected something else?
I EXPECTED a $1000 amp with a 100W output to at least in the very least not get drowned out by a 50W amp on 3 while the 8100 is dimed...................I think this was a reasonable expectation, no?

PS, that was a $1000 1991 dollars not $239 2021 dollars.
 

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Just got a brand new MG30GFX combo 30 watt with 10" speaker, the overdrive sounds very digital and muffled. No presence or bite to it. I even tried hooking it to a real Celestion 12" speaker in my DSL40CR and that didn't help . . .
You probably need better pickups . . . This MG30GFX combo amplifier is excellent for crunch tones; however, the overdrive is lacking. The CODE™ series is so much better. :)
 

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Jethro, thanks for your input. I am going look into the Katanas and try one. I like the idea of the 100 watt head with the 5 in speaker.
One of my main uses would be in line recording. The small spraker would serve as a good reference and then line in for recording.
I have cabs here to use.
 

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Jethro, thanks for your input. I am going look into the Katanas and try one. I like the idea of the 100 watt head with the 5 in speaker.
One of my main uses would be in line recording. The small spraker would serve as a good reference and then line in for recording.
I have cabs here to use.
Your mileage may vary!!! What it sounds like direct in I can't say...
 

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