Cry Baby Shoot-out.

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  1. clutch71

    clutch71 Well-Known Member

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    I am a self proclaimed wah junky having modded or built my own wah's. So if you are handy there are a lot of great resources. If you want an off the shelf wah I would recommend Wilson Effects (best inductor and pot IMO), RMC Picture Wah, or a Crybaby Dimebag wah.
     
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  2. NotSure

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    Unfortunately, all you can do is try a bunch of different wahs before you find the one that works for you. The basic wah circuit really functions as a whole more than any guitar pedal circuit I've ever come across. You can change one component and have no change, massive change, or subtle change, and it will differ from one pedal to the next!
    There are tons of opinions and boutique parts out there though...all of which amount to nothing if it doesn't work for your setup.
    The current "best wah" I've personally ever used is an old PAX Pedal Number One (same as the Ibanez Wau Fuzz). When you trace the circuit, you find it's doing everything wrong, according to Internet opinion. It even uses a generic LINEAR potentiometer and an inductor that looks like it was from an old Radio Shack hobby kit (no hand-wound unicorn beard oil in there).
    The tone though? Glorious.
     
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  3. groovenev

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    The JEN CryBaby is awesome! I still have a perfectly working one I bought in Wyo in 76' ..Love them..
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    If you have not tried one of these you may see if you can find a working one... I totally love the lead sound you can get by opening this Wah... it also doubles as a volume peddle
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    Coincidentally, I was looking for a good wah the past few months. This thread encouraged me to finally score one.
    I boiled it down to the CAE, 935Q, Cantrell or the Dime wahs. Thank you @clutch71 for inspiring me to finally buy one. Just scored an older Dime wah for a good price. There's been a lot of great talk over the years of that wah. A bunch of touring artists love that wah it appears.

    I guess I shall see the good hype! Thanks my friend.
     
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  6. MikeyDude

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    One of my favorites is an Italian Jen Dallas Arbiter Sound City Wah Face with an Orange Fasel and Blue Arco Caps that thing growls like an angry tiger !!!
     
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  8. MikeyDude

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    But you have to have the Bob Bradshaw digital gazinta for it to really wail.
     
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    It sounds best with a very undigital Germanium Fuzz Face, lol :)
     
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    I had Zakk Wylde wah and I lost it, now I have Dimebag's wah but hardly use it thanks to Mr. Whammet.
     
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    Hey, vintage wah junkies, is there a modern made wah that gets a player into the right territory? I was looking at the Wilson Effects Mini Q Wah, but it seems like a vintage wah can be acquired for a moderate premium over the price of the Wilson. Then the question becomes, which vintage wah? Looks like a dangerously deep rabbit hole.
     
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    One that I am quickly spiraling down at the moment... lol
     
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    I assume you’re talking about the lead guitarist for a particularly tired metal band. He is a bit of a wah abuser, no?
     
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    You got it :)
     
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    Thomas organ Wah is arguably the best ever and is standard true bypass if it is original. It caned all others according to a "Guitar Player" magazine Wah shootout back around mid 1987. I've yet to hear one, but just suggesting it might be worth a resto? if you could find a known specialist. I'm running with Dunlop Hendrix Wah from 1986 which I modded to true bypass and boosted the gain circuit to match the higher bypass level. Very happy. If I were looking for something new, it would probably be a Dunlop with adjustable Q, sweep and level controls. Apart from the pots going scratchy, they are reasonably tough and dependable with a great time proven sound.
     
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    @clutch71 It arrived a few days ago! Dime wah is FANTASTIC my friend. I'm going all HAMMET-SAMMICH with it.

    :rofl:

    Seriously, what a great wah. It has some SUPER nice snarl to it with a nice wide quack. So far, I'm FULL BORE with it as it just sounds great cranked through both Marshalls and Boogies. Glad to have a wah back in my collection after so many years. Jamming it in the most unconventional ways so far with ex: octave~delay~chorus~flanger~phaser.

    Thanks again for the recommendation.
     
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    I agree - My old Thomas wah was incredible. It's been shelved mainly because the pot is extremely crackly and noisy.

    I made the jump and went with the Xotic XW-1. I'm really happy with it. It's as smooth as bacon fat. Apparently it was based on the original 1967-1968 Italian-built Clyde McCoy Wah. There are so many adjustments it can sound like anything. It has Q, but also has a bias, and bass and treble adjustments. Inside there is an input gain pot and you can change the high end range with the flip of a switch - so it's like rolling the pedal back a tooth on the sprocket, but it keeps the same bottom end and sweep. And if you want to, you can roll the sprocket too. Plus you can adjust how far back the heel down goes. You can adjust the pedal to stay where you put it for the 'Half-Cocked' sound. And it's true bypass, and 1/3 smaller than a Cry Baby. Oh yeah - you can't forget... it has an LED. They just don't sound as good without the LED.
     
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    I got one in '85, wanted the full sweep of the pot :naughty: [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    Thanx for the rundown, I will keep an eye on that one, sounds on the money.
     
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    That is quite the MOD!! Wow! I never thought of doing that to mine.... does it really make a huge difference?
     
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