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Creamback 65 or 75 for my DSL40c?

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  1. ledvedder

    ledvedder Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys, I play in a 2 guitarist band. We play mostly classic rock, up to some 90s style hard rock (AIC, Weezer, etc). Which speaker do you think will be the better choice in my DSL40c? I see a lot of folks have used the 65, but I'm wondering if the 75 might be better in a 2 guitar band?
     
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    Let your ears be the judge.
     
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    Sounds like an expensive option versus getting some actual advice!

    Sorry OP, I have zero experience but am interested in the suggestions.
     
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    pedecamp Well-Known Member

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    I have a 65 and been curious about the 75, comparison videos Ive watched I always seem to like the 75 better but the 65 seems to be more popular. I've been on a hunt for a used 75 for a long time but no luck. I'll be watching to see what you do! Good luck :yesway:

    I've always heard the 40C was bright, so knowing nothing about nothing I'd go with a 75 cuz they are supposed to be darker on the top end than the 65. :yesway:
     
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  5. Hellzington

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    I had the Creamback 75 in an open-back Mesa Boogie 2x12 Fillmore cabinet. It was an amazing cab. I regret selling it. Those speakers sound amazing. They just make any amp feel "more vintage," and solos really cut through.
     
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    Don't shoot me - but I really liked the G12 Marshall Vintage (not the V30). If you have both speakers (the 65 and 75) I would go for the 75.
     
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    Jethro Rocker Well-Known Member Silver Supporting Member

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    The examples I saw the 65 was darker than the 75? 75 had more bite.
    I have each!
    Sadly I have yet to mount the 75 in anything to try out. I wanted the 65 and 75 in a 2x12. Will mount them in and try one at a time.
    I will keep an eye in this thread and post when I have something.
    Meanwhile, OP check the current videos out there and use your own ears.
    My concern witn the 65 is that it may not cut through as well, amp dependent.
     
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    rjohns1 Well-Known Member

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    I had them both, the 75 was brighter, the 65 still had bite but it was pretty good in the amp. The 65 won for me.
     
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    Jethro Rocker Well-Known Member Silver Supporting Member

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    Lots of thump from that 65 in a 1x12!
     
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    My ears say the 75 is more scooped and the 65 is the speaker I'd choose for an all-arounder.

    My personal favorite 4x12 has two G12M65 Creambacks in it, and two G12M25 Greenbacks.
     
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    Chrome Firebird Freak Gold Supporting Member

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    I have the creamback in my DSL 40C and it sounds pretty dam dope. I wouldn't have it any other way.
     
  12. ledvedder

    ledvedder Well-Known Member

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    Which Creamback?
     
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    Don't rule out a Redback. It's from the Creamback lineage. You'd have all the headroom could you want.
     
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    Chrome Firebird Freak Gold Supporting Member

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    sorry my bad, should have stated, its the G12M-65. I also done C19 mod. it is my go to amp unless, I'm on big enough stage for the JMP's
     
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    scozz Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    I’m curious about something similar to this,… having one 25 watt speaker and one 65 watt speaker in the same 2-12 cab. In a cab like that is the 65 noticeable louder than the 25 watt?
     
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    ledvedder Well-Known Member

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    No, loudness has nothing to do with wattage. The loudness of a speaker has to do with its SPL. But, with that speaker combination in a 212, the total wattage handling would be 50 watts (twice the lowest wattage speaker).
     
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    I don’t have experience with the creambacks, but I have an Eminence Private Jack in mine. It’s basically a higher-wattage-handling Greenback (50 watts) and it really transforms the amp. Went from sounding okay with the treble and presence almost all the way out to sounding amazing with everything at noon (although I still prefer a little bump in the mids and a little cut in the presence). Perfect for blues, rock, and even some metal (provided you’re not detuning to drop Z)
     
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    Jethro Rocker Well-Known Member Silver Supporting Member

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    Yeah the sensitivity is what counts as mentioned. The Greenback is 98dB and Creamback 65 is 97dB so they are so close to the same output one wouldn't notice it at all at any distance from the cab.
     
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    The 65 sounds better stand alone with Marshalls, but in a dual guitar band you want the 75. It's one of those speakers that cut quite nice and let you hear yourself not too sacrificed. Unless the other guy has an amp-cab-speaker combination that cuts more ofc.
     
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    I played 3 gigs this weekend. I used the 65 for the first, then switched to the 75 for the other 2. At first, I thought, wow this 65 sounds amazing! On it's own it definitely did. Then, with the 75, I felt both guitars stood out better in the mix. The EQ of the 75 just seems to stand out better. I may put the 65 in a separate 112 cab and just use both. But I'll have to see if the 65 can even keep up with the 75 due to its lower sensitivity.
     
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