Can anybody school me on Gibson 57's pickups?

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  1. The Dose of Harmony

    The Dose of Harmony Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Hi guys !

    I been finding that i really like the 57's
    i own these ones

    57's classic
    57's Classic plus
    57's Super
    57's A3R
    57's A3T

    some history would be cool to know

    how many variants are out there?


    i been swapping some of them in my guitars and its looks like they work everywhere they go

    the tone its warm but kind of aggressive or better say with balls and has good mids and a polite high end

    any thought are welcome!
     
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    wakjob Well-Known Member

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    Interested in this as well...I don't think Gibson pu's get enough love.
    That said, I've never bonded with the Classic 57. Too dull and not enough top-end for me.
     
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    pedecamp Well-Known Member

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    Im only aware of the first two, I like them very much. :yesway:
     
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    Old Punker Well-Known Member

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    I have a pair of '57 Classics in my 2013 Gibson SG Standard and IMO they are the best pups that I own. An ad for the guitar described them as:

    "57 Classic humbucking pickups, some of the most popular recreations of vintage PAF humbuckers available today. These great pickups use genuine Alnico II bar magnets and are wound with 42-AWG enamel-coated wire for the characteristic blend of warmth and creaminess that made original PAFs legendary."

    and I think your description of their tone is spot on. Unfortunately, I'm not up on the history. I only know that I like them. :applause:
     
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    SlyStrat Well-Known Member

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    They are pretty good.
    Gibson pickups have extra "fuzz" on each note.
    Seth Lover's are better.
     
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    johnny q Well-Known Member

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    My 1999 R9 came with the 57s stock and honestly - I keep going back to them. This is after countless swaps with all manner of boutique offerings - including hard to get "holy grail" stuff.

    As far as the OPs request for some history etc. I can't help, but perusing the internet all these years, there is a consensus that the earlier ones are different/sound better? I personally cannot confirm this so please take it with a grain of salt. I don't believe this personally and it reminds me of the "Old Duncan JB's are better" argument, despite Duncan themselves saying there was never a design change! :)
     
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    The Dose of Harmony Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    I see a lot of people like them , but i dont see that technical info about the different models!

    i wish gibson would be better on this
     
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    Rozman62 Well-Known Member

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    I have a pair of 57/57+ in my '05 SG and they are great. Very clear and vintage voiced. Bought them from a forum member about 10 years ago.
     
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    The 57 and 57+ came out mid nineties...I was working at the swedish gibson agent at the time, that's how i remember. I remember the early ones being very sensitive to load, sounding completely different depending on 300k or 470k pots...I don't know if that is still the case..
    Never heard of 57 super
    I would assume from the name that 57 A3R and 57 A3T are alnico 3 with neck and bridge spacing on the pole pieces. .. but that's just me guessing...
    J
     
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    The Dose of Harmony Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Yes sir!

    Those A3 are alnico 3 came out on a 2017 Traditional!
    I like them!
     
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    Vinsanitizer Forum Support Spec. Double Platinum Supporting Member VIP Member

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    Most of the Gibsons I've owned since around Y2K have come stock with the 57 and 57+ combo. Not being one to mod gear usually, I always left them in there and always liked 'em. Lately though, I seem to prefer the 496R/498T combo (or whatever they're called prior to the 500T) for a more ballsy 70's Rock sound (Les Pauls). But the 57C's are great pickups, just a bit smooth for me these days.
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    The Dose of Harmony Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    I like the tone on my rig!
    heavy enough and clear !

    but i like the 498 on my other custom a lot too!
    check this tone!

    (196) January 31, 2021 - YouTube
     
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    Vinsanitizer Forum Support Spec. Double Platinum Supporting Member VIP Member

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    That's good tone right thar. :yesway:
     
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    I can't figure them out. They are chameleons. They seem to work well in whatever they are in. Often surprisingly. Sound great in my EPI ES-175 Premiere. Great in my Gibson ES-335 Studio. The A3s are great in my LP Trad Pro T3. Thought for sure I'd want to swap them when I got my 2015 Flying V, but nope. That's covereing a lot of ground!
     
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    I love the 57 Classics! I have a 57 and 57+ in my SG. I can also split them via a 6 way toggle switch. They are my fav humbuckers I've ever used.
     
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    On a Les Paul taste-test adventure to GC one day the 57s were the clear winner for me and when I get an LP later this year it'll be a used Traditional w/ 57s in it.
     
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    Very guitar-dependent I guess. My '13 LP Traditional originally came with 57/57+, and as much as I could live with the neck 57 (it was fine, really), I never could get along with the 57+ in the bridge, it sounded very piercing and nasal/congested in that particular guitar.
    I ended up swapping the Classic 57s for a Duncan Slash set and never looked back (just added nickel covers at one point).

    But then again, the JB that sounds GREAT in my Kramer Paul Dean (all mahogany, rosewood fretboard, neck-through construction) didn't work for me at all in the LP, sounded like too much of everything (mids and output, mostly) and went back into the Kramer in a matter of minutes.
    So yeah, as always, it comes down to the individual guitar, hard to make any blanket statement.
     
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    Curious as to why you say this, as I have a pair to go into a 2012 SG. What type of stuff do you play with them?
     
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    1990 to be exact. Gibson came out with a bunch of new pickups to replace the circuit board Bill Lawrence pickups from the 1987-1989 era.

    The 57's, 490R, 490T, 498T 496R and 500T all came out then.
     
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