Buying new 4x4 speaker

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  1. bobbyvasco

    bobbyvasco Active Member

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    I am selling my old 1990 era 4x4 marshall cab because it is rattling, buzzing etc...and buying new one...I cant fix the buzz and it sounds really bad....

    I am running it through my JVM 410 so I need something strong and reliable

    so my first choice is
    Marshall MR1960 A which isI 300 w

    but there are other variations like

    Marshall MR1960 AV is 280 W so less then A

    Marshall MR1960 AX I like because of vintage speakers but is only 100W so what does it mean?

    Which one to buy?
     
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    Let us know what you decide to get. I just bought a new MX412AR 240W cab. I'm waiting by the door.
     
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    bobbyvasco Active Member

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    that seems to be the cheapest 4x4?
     
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    Jethro Rocker Well-Known Member

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    Difference in the speakers inside. Don't get the 100 watt with the Greenbacks as your amp is 100 watts minimum at full.

    Look up the speakers in each of those cabs. Go to reviews. Look at Youtube. Even try one out and decide for yourself. Research...
     
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    At a little over $500 US new, it seems reasonable for a Marshall box rated at 240w. I was also told the supply line for these has dried up.
     
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    I wouldn’t ever buy a new 4x12 myself. There are at least a dozen used on CL within an hour drive of me right now.
     
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    Any cabinet can be fixed. Your 4x12 (not 4x4, that should be parked in the driveway) probably has loose screws inside it.

    But I've seen cabinets where all the glue joints had failed. I have one that I had to rebuild. When I took it apart and stripped
    the tolex off it, I ended up with four loose boards that were the top, bottom, and sides that I had to clean and reglue to turn back into a cabinet.
     
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    bobbyvasco Active Member

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    i have one myself JCM 900 which is same as 1960 cab and it rattles like crazy....
     
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    bobbyvasco Active Member

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    i reglued back post...tightened all speakers...glued down handles....tightened posts where speakers sits on....and the clean sound is a disaster coming from this cab.....everybody says it is the amp...but I don't believe it because it was serviced...but in clean the guitar sound rattles like crazy etc when I hit low e string....
     
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    Bang on the cabinet with a rubber mallet. You'll hear it rattling if the rattling is coming from the cabinet.

    It can also help you find WHERE the problem is.

    Is it a model 1960 cabinet? Or what model?

    And where are you located? Just in case you're around the corner from me...
     
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    europe buddy..it is quite far....ok I will try with a rubber mallet
     
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    "tightened all speakers..."

    If you tightened all the speaker screws as tight as they can go, that might be the problem. That can warp the speaker baskets and cause voice coil rub, which sometimes can be heard as a rattle, buzz, growl on low clean notes. (It's still there with distortion but it's harder to pick out -- can just sound like ugly distortion.)

    Speaker screws should be barely snug, not tightened all the way.
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    I'm under the impression you bought the cab used. If so a previous owner may have overtightened the screws enough to cause the problems and you should have loosened them a little instead of tightening them even more.
     
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    I banged on the cabinet....I cant figure out where it comes from.....
    how do I know if it comes from speaker itself?
     
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    Remove both handles and take it for a dry run..
    Also, if original Celestion speakers, they should have the paper bushings intact around the frame.
     
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    the most vibrates is the back plate....that is screwed down...I even put a cloth between back post and rear back plate.....but still it vibrates in special notes on lower E string
     
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    Check the wire routing and make sure they're free and have plenty of room and not up against something.
     
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    If the spider comes loose on one speaker(or more) it could cause a rattle. I had a vintage G12-80 that sounds OK at lower distorted volumes.
    But if played clean it would rattle...if played loudly, it would rattle. Then I dropped it on the way to get repaired bending the frame some,
    but my speaker guy fixed both issues and it was good to go.
     
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    what is spider
     

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